3200gt vs C63 w204
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I’m not the biggest fan of Mercs, but there are a select few that I really like, the W204 C63 being one of them. It’s very much German muscle car with an incredible soundtrack, fantastic amounts or torque(which will certainly put you into the back of your seat) and fast becoming a cult classic IMO.
Comparing one to a 3200 is hard though, they are two very different cars designed for different purposes. The only way I could describe the difference in cars is that if the 3200 is a scalpel, the C63 is very much a sledgehammer.
Comparing one to a 3200 is hard though, they are two very different cars designed for different purposes. The only way I could describe the difference in cars is that if the 3200 is a scalpel, the C63 is very much a sledgehammer.
Sorry not to answer your main question, but it's worth noting that the W204 (like its predecessor) has two almost totally different dashboards in the pre-facelift and post-facelift models, and most people consider the later interior to be a lot better. So depending on which version you saw, there may be a better interior out there.
If your Maserati is a good reliable example, I'd encourage you to hang on to it. They are lovely rare cars and IMO more special than the Mercs.
I'd imagine the twin turbos of the GT will at least give the impression of more shove even if that isn't actually the case.
Nice position to be in though, enjoy either way.
I'd imagine the twin turbos of the GT will at least give the impression of more shove even if that isn't actually the case.
Nice position to be in though, enjoy either way.
scalpel I would not say its ... the 3200 looks like a brute disguised as a lady or vice versa. its real weight is much lower than the c63 w204, it is manual and the torque is massive.
at the dyno the stock c63 w204 comes out between 400-430hp and 500-540nm grand maximum verified.
I have no doubt that the c63 amg shove is important, but there is no turbo rush. after I may be wrong on the final result and that's why I ask if people have tried both
at the dyno the stock c63 w204 comes out between 400-430hp and 500-540nm grand maximum verified.
I have no doubt that the c63 amg shove is important, but there is no turbo rush. after I may be wrong on the final result and that's why I ask if people have tried both
Different cars, but I own a Maserati GranSport and until recently had a Mercedes CLS63 AMG Shooting Brake.
The Merc was a monster. But the Maser is way, way, way more special and whilst not as fast, the engine is far more exotic. The interior alone in the Italian car is unbelievably lovely.
Now my Merc had the 5.5l turbo against the 6.2 NA you are talking about, and your Maser has the 3.2 turbo vs my 4.2 NA, but the Maser is a proper exotic designed as such from the ground up, and the AMG is a re-engineered version of a conventional machine. My Maserati feels and handles like a baby supercar, the Merc was like a fast exec and frankly, until silly speeds, not that special. The GranSport is special at 10mph.
This is a keeper.
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The Merc was a monster. But the Maser is way, way, way more special and whilst not as fast, the engine is far more exotic. The interior alone in the Italian car is unbelievably lovely.
Now my Merc had the 5.5l turbo against the 6.2 NA you are talking about, and your Maser has the 3.2 turbo vs my 4.2 NA, but the Maser is a proper exotic designed as such from the ground up, and the AMG is a re-engineered version of a conventional machine. My Maserati feels and handles like a baby supercar, the Merc was like a fast exec and frankly, until silly speeds, not that special. The GranSport is special at 10mph.
This is a keeper.
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Edited by Harry Flashman on Wednesday 30th November 20:42
Gnevans said:
The C63 is a better car. The Maserati is a better looking car. The 507 C63 is the one to have, otherwise given the choice I’d stick to the 3200GT. I’ve owned all three.
ok, did you find that the c63 gave more blow and shove in the back or the 3200 gt and its turbo rush. the c63 is linear according to many people. so that like many engine n/a one does not feel the shove per se[quote=Harry Flashman]Different cars, but I own a Maserati GranSport and until recently had a Mercedes CLS63 AMG Shooting Brake.
The Merc was a monster. But the Maser is way, way, way more special and whilst not as fast, the engine is far more exotic. The interior alone in the Italian car is unbelievably lovely.
Now my Merc had the 5.5l turbo against the 6.2 NA you are talking about, and your Maser has the 3.2 turbo vs my 4.2 NA, but the Maser is a proper exotic designed as such from the ground up, and the AMG is a re-engineered version of a conventional machine. My Maserati feels and handles like a baby supercar, the Merc was like a fast exec and frankly, until silly speeds, not that special. The GranSport is special at 10mph.
This is a keeper.
the Maserati feels special at 10 miles that's for sure! I have already had the experience of a gransport and as you say it is an exotic car and more exclusive than the merc, however even if the gransport and as much or more powerful than the 3200 it feels much much less fast and raw there is much less torque and no turbo boost, 3200 is explosive. but the engine is much livelier than the 4.2 audi of the rs5 it is without any doubts
The Merc was a monster. But the Maser is way, way, way more special and whilst not as fast, the engine is far more exotic. The interior alone in the Italian car is unbelievably lovely.
Now my Merc had the 5.5l turbo against the 6.2 NA you are talking about, and your Maser has the 3.2 turbo vs my 4.2 NA, but the Maser is a proper exotic designed as such from the ground up, and the AMG is a re-engineered version of a conventional machine. My Maserati feels and handles like a baby supercar, the Merc was like a fast exec and frankly, until silly speeds, not that special. The GranSport is special at 10mph.
This is a keeper.
the Maserati feels special at 10 miles that's for sure! I have already had the experience of a gransport and as you say it is an exotic car and more exclusive than the merc, however even if the gransport and as much or more powerful than the 3200 it feels much much less fast and raw there is much less torque and no turbo boost, 3200 is explosive. but the engine is much livelier than the 4.2 audi of the rs5 it is without any doubts
That's true, and actually part of the reason I bought it. 400bho is a sweet spot in the crowded South East as you can rev the Maser out and not be in a dangerous place.
The Merc was just too fast for our roads. I remember picking up the Maser and being in it with a friend in the AMG, and on an empty motorway home, so able to slow right down and boot them both.
It was no contest. The Merc, once rolling and with both turbos lit, was an animal. The GranSports couldn't begin to keep up. Of course the CLS had 560bhp - the W204 is closer so there is probably less in it against the 3200.
But the Maser is way more fun. And that Italian howl vs the Merc's German muscle car noises is no contest - the Maserati walks it.
yes I agree, the Maseratis are special, but the 5.5 is not the 6.2. it's certain that the 5.5 twin turbo feels way faster. after the 6.2 against the 3200 I don't know I'm waiting to see the response. but I'm leaning more towards the 3200 with its old-school turbo engine as far as feel goes.
generally speaking i don't like smooth and linear acceleration like n/a background. even if the noise and the response to the accelerator is better
generally speaking i don't like smooth and linear acceleration like n/a background. even if the noise and the response to the accelerator is better
Masegt32 said:
Gnevans said:
The C63 is a better car. The Maserati is a better looking car. The 507 C63 is the one to have, otherwise given the choice I’d stick to the 3200GT. I’ve owned all three.
ok, did you find that the c63 gave more blow and shove in the back or the 3200 gt and its turbo rush. the c63 is linear according to many people. so that like many engine n/a one does not feel the shove per se
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