Anyone gone from Mclaren to Lambo? 600LT/Huracan
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Hi
Anyone made this move, or in the fortunate position to have both?
Looking at going from a 600LT to a Huracan. A Performante would be nice, but not looking to sink more than £140-150k into it (would almost be a straight swap).
Nothing wrong with the 600, just thinking about a change.
Backwards step, or good idea for more drama?
Cheers
Anyone made this move, or in the fortunate position to have both?
Looking at going from a 600LT to a Huracan. A Performante would be nice, but not looking to sink more than £140-150k into it (would almost be a straight swap).
Nothing wrong with the 600, just thinking about a change.
Backwards step, or good idea for more drama?
Cheers
I’m actually looking at a 600LT Spider or 720s Coupe as the next car but couldn’t help but notice Huracans are in the same ballpark price wise at £150k. Now I’m not sure if I’d like the extra attention that a Lambo would bring I have driven one a few yrs back the 580-2 and it was fun, looked and sounded awesome. Definitely not as tactile as a McLaren tho and the 600LT the more advanced car for sure.
Interested in this, since it's something I'm also considering.
650 Spider was written off a couple of months ago. I'm in the slightly odd situation that I'm not sure I really want to replace it - but the g/f is fairly insistent that I should.
Her preference is the same again, but - much as I liked it - I owned it for 3 years and did almost 20k miles, so the appeal of buying another one isn't that high. 720 coupe is possible, but losing the spider aspect seems a big negative - and even with man maths I can't make a 720 spider work at twice the cost of a 650 spider (especially when there are things I prefer about the 650).
I saw a Hurracan spider on Saturday - didn't drive it, but sat in it and it was a lovely place to be. Much nicer than I expected in fact.
The only problem is - with McLaren, having a spider seems to lose you virtually nothing thanks to the carbon tub and it's a hard top. The Hurracan is a soft top and is a bit of a compromise - enough so that I think I'd probably choose a coupe over a spider.
Looking online, they seem to have pretty much zero common issues and are fairly bullet proof cars. One negative I've found is that virtually none seem to have been spec'd with cruise control - which is something I like to have. I used the 650 as an almost daily, and would want to do the same with the Hurracan.
Main appeal for me is simply that I've never owned a Lamborghini
650 Spider was written off a couple of months ago. I'm in the slightly odd situation that I'm not sure I really want to replace it - but the g/f is fairly insistent that I should.
Her preference is the same again, but - much as I liked it - I owned it for 3 years and did almost 20k miles, so the appeal of buying another one isn't that high. 720 coupe is possible, but losing the spider aspect seems a big negative - and even with man maths I can't make a 720 spider work at twice the cost of a 650 spider (especially when there are things I prefer about the 650).
I saw a Hurracan spider on Saturday - didn't drive it, but sat in it and it was a lovely place to be. Much nicer than I expected in fact.
The only problem is - with McLaren, having a spider seems to lose you virtually nothing thanks to the carbon tub and it's a hard top. The Hurracan is a soft top and is a bit of a compromise - enough so that I think I'd probably choose a coupe over a spider.
Looking online, they seem to have pretty much zero common issues and are fairly bullet proof cars. One negative I've found is that virtually none seem to have been spec'd with cruise control - which is something I like to have. I used the 650 as an almost daily, and would want to do the same with the Hurracan.
Main appeal for me is simply that I've never owned a Lamborghini
davek_964 said:
Interested in this, since it's something I'm also considering.
650 Spider was written off a couple of months ago. I'm in the slightly odd situation that I'm not sure I really want to replace it - but the g/f is fairly insistent that I should.
Her preference is the same again, but - much as I liked it - I owned it for 3 years and did almost 20k miles, so the appeal of buying another one isn't that high. 720 coupe is possible, but losing the spider aspect seems a big negative - and even with man maths I can't make a 720 spider work at twice the cost of a 650 spider (especially when there are things I prefer about the 650).
I saw a Hurracan spider on Saturday - didn't drive it, but sat in it and it was a lovely place to be. Much nicer than I expected in fact.
The only problem is - with McLaren, having a spider seems to lose you virtually nothing thanks to the carbon tub and it's a hard top. The Hurracan is a soft top and is a bit of a compromise - enough so that I think I'd probably choose a coupe over a spider.
Looking online, they seem to have pretty much zero common issues and are fairly bullet proof cars. One negative I've found is that virtually none seem to have been spec'd with cruise control - which is something I like to have. I used the 650 as an almost daily, and would want to do the same with the Hurracan.
Main appeal for me is simply that I've never owned a Lamborghini
If you find the Perf you really want a main dealer will add cruise for a couple of £k.650 Spider was written off a couple of months ago. I'm in the slightly odd situation that I'm not sure I really want to replace it - but the g/f is fairly insistent that I should.
Her preference is the same again, but - much as I liked it - I owned it for 3 years and did almost 20k miles, so the appeal of buying another one isn't that high. 720 coupe is possible, but losing the spider aspect seems a big negative - and even with man maths I can't make a 720 spider work at twice the cost of a 650 spider (especially when there are things I prefer about the 650).
I saw a Hurracan spider on Saturday - didn't drive it, but sat in it and it was a lovely place to be. Much nicer than I expected in fact.
The only problem is - with McLaren, having a spider seems to lose you virtually nothing thanks to the carbon tub and it's a hard top. The Hurracan is a soft top and is a bit of a compromise - enough so that I think I'd probably choose a coupe over a spider.
Looking online, they seem to have pretty much zero common issues and are fairly bullet proof cars. One negative I've found is that virtually none seem to have been spec'd with cruise control - which is something I like to have. I used the 650 as an almost daily, and would want to do the same with the Hurracan.
Main appeal for me is simply that I've never owned a Lamborghini
I switched from a 650 Spyder to a Hurracan perf Spyder a couple of years back - but after a couple months I missed the driving experience of the macca, and ended up trading the perf in for a 675LT Spyder which I love
Perf was amazing sound, especially in corsa , lots of drama, nice electronics - but it only felt fast at higher speeds to me, and it wasn’t quite as connected to the road as my 650 was - maybe I’d just gotten used to the 650 after 4 years.
The 675LT is the perfect car for me now and not selling it. At the perf Spyder price level you’re competing with the 675 (maybe 675 bit more expensive at current rising prices - but at the time was the same price as the perf)
Perf was amazing sound, especially in corsa , lots of drama, nice electronics - but it only felt fast at higher speeds to me, and it wasn’t quite as connected to the road as my 650 was - maybe I’d just gotten used to the 650 after 4 years.
The 675LT is the perfect car for me now and not selling it. At the perf Spyder price level you’re competing with the 675 (maybe 675 bit more expensive at current rising prices - but at the time was the same price as the perf)
Lamborghini cannot come close to the driving dynamics a Mclaren or Ferrari offers.
I own a 600 LT Spider and a 458 Italia. Driven Huracan 580-2, 610-4 and the Performante.
For myself the Huracan basic models are pretty woeful handling and feel wise, they have the theatre with the V10 and transmission which is absolutely fantastic, but just be aware an R8 V10 manual is to me the better drivers car compared to a Huracan at less than half the price. Plus the Audi is half the cost to service, yet its more or less the same car.....
The Performante is a different animal, ballistic, theatre etc. But the biggest issue I have is these cars are so dull sub 100mph, which means to enjoy them on the road is just not happening.
Lets remember faster does not actually mean a car is more fun or more exciting.
Also Ferrari and Lamborghini in Spyder form do definitely suffer from scuttle shake, whereas Mclaren does not. Also to me a Huracan with the soft top just looks wrong with roof up.
If you want Spyder I'd really suggest sticking with Mclaren or go look at a Porsche 981 or 718 Spyder, the driving dynamics are just on another level.
However if you don't mind a coupe then look at the 458, on paper its not particular fast but my god my 458 feels way quicker than my 600 LT at low speed, as such I rarely find the need to want to go beyond 100mph in my 458 it delivers fun and excitement at low speeds, such an event to drive.
If Spider is a must then drive a 600 LT, for me the 600 LT Spider is the best car Mclaren makes, again its not the fastest but it is the best of the sports series and I enjoy a car that moves around and I can somewhat feel the speed, in actual acceleration it is quicker than the 458, but I also find myself going faster in the 600 LT so not as good for my license, but the super series cars are even more riskier for your license.
I own a 600 LT Spider and a 458 Italia. Driven Huracan 580-2, 610-4 and the Performante.
For myself the Huracan basic models are pretty woeful handling and feel wise, they have the theatre with the V10 and transmission which is absolutely fantastic, but just be aware an R8 V10 manual is to me the better drivers car compared to a Huracan at less than half the price. Plus the Audi is half the cost to service, yet its more or less the same car.....
The Performante is a different animal, ballistic, theatre etc. But the biggest issue I have is these cars are so dull sub 100mph, which means to enjoy them on the road is just not happening.
Lets remember faster does not actually mean a car is more fun or more exciting.
Also Ferrari and Lamborghini in Spyder form do definitely suffer from scuttle shake, whereas Mclaren does not. Also to me a Huracan with the soft top just looks wrong with roof up.
If you want Spyder I'd really suggest sticking with Mclaren or go look at a Porsche 981 or 718 Spyder, the driving dynamics are just on another level.
However if you don't mind a coupe then look at the 458, on paper its not particular fast but my god my 458 feels way quicker than my 600 LT at low speed, as such I rarely find the need to want to go beyond 100mph in my 458 it delivers fun and excitement at low speeds, such an event to drive.
If Spider is a must then drive a 600 LT, for me the 600 LT Spider is the best car Mclaren makes, again its not the fastest but it is the best of the sports series and I enjoy a car that moves around and I can somewhat feel the speed, in actual acceleration it is quicker than the 458, but I also find myself going faster in the 600 LT so not as good for my license, but the super series cars are even more riskier for your license.
I will need some money for other things next year, hence not really wanting to go for a perf, as much as I would like to!
458 would fit the bill… but would be worried about how fragile it is? Running cost be similar to a Huracan? I’d regret not buying when they were £30k cheaper though!
Not fussed about having a spider.
Cheers
458 would fit the bill… but would be worried about how fragile it is? Running cost be similar to a Huracan? I’d regret not buying when they were £30k cheaper though!
Not fussed about having a spider.
Cheers
My thoughts, for what they are worth.
When I sold my 12C I considered the standard Huracan, drove a few, liked it as a 'car' but not as dynamic as the 12C, can be quiet if you need it to be and not draw attention. However the luggage is woeful so had to rule it out as could not be used for euro tours 2 up for 2 weeks. Drove a couple of perf's too. They were too 'in your face' for me and the seats were rock hard and the engine full on all the time. It was like sitting on a church pew with chainsaw behind you. Ended up with the 675LT, dual personality on the one hand quiet, comfortable. lots of luggage space, on the other hand raw, dynamic, visceral and as quick as anything you can buy. A real adrenalin hit if you need it. LT McLaren's can be a latte or a double ristretto whereas the Huracan was only ever espresso all the time. The 600LT is an awesome car, driven a few of those too definitely worth keeping hold of and difficult to know where to go for a change if you want parity.
When I sold my 12C I considered the standard Huracan, drove a few, liked it as a 'car' but not as dynamic as the 12C, can be quiet if you need it to be and not draw attention. However the luggage is woeful so had to rule it out as could not be used for euro tours 2 up for 2 weeks. Drove a couple of perf's too. They were too 'in your face' for me and the seats were rock hard and the engine full on all the time. It was like sitting on a church pew with chainsaw behind you. Ended up with the 675LT, dual personality on the one hand quiet, comfortable. lots of luggage space, on the other hand raw, dynamic, visceral and as quick as anything you can buy. A real adrenalin hit if you need it. LT McLaren's can be a latte or a double ristretto whereas the Huracan was only ever espresso all the time. The 600LT is an awesome car, driven a few of those too definitely worth keeping hold of and difficult to know where to go for a change if you want parity.
AndyC_123 said:
I will need some money for other things next year, hence not really wanting to go for a perf, as much as I would like to!
458 would fit the bill… but would be worried about how fragile it is? Running cost be similar to a Huracan? I’d regret not buying when they were £30k cheaper though!
Not fussed about having a spider.
Cheers
Had my 458 for 4 years now, it cost me nothing in repairs and about 2k in servicing, they are reliable and I had free servicing for first couple of years due to 7yr service pack but now I am paying for it the service is about £950 at Ferrari main dealer and I don't bother with warranty.458 would fit the bill… but would be worried about how fragile it is? Running cost be similar to a Huracan? I’d regret not buying when they were £30k cheaper though!
Not fussed about having a spider.
Cheers
Compared to a 600LT, a Huracan is better built, better sound, but that is about it. I have a 600LT Spyder which is up for sale, but I will probably keep it as I don't really need the money, but more importantly, there is nothing that gives you the speed / thrill at this price point (150k ish).
I would only consider a Huracan Perf Spyder (which is a tiny bit slower) as a minor upgrade really, and I don't understand why the price point of these has gone up so much (225k plus) for a decent one. I would not consider any other model than a Huracan perf spyder with comfort seats.
Nothing from above 150k on the used market (all brands) seems to be selling at the minute due to uncertainty with interest rates / markets etc
Only you can decide if one is worth the extra pound notes. A standard Huracan from a 600lt is a downgrade in my opinion!
I would only consider a Huracan Perf Spyder (which is a tiny bit slower) as a minor upgrade really, and I don't understand why the price point of these has gone up so much (225k plus) for a decent one. I would not consider any other model than a Huracan perf spyder with comfort seats.
Nothing from above 150k on the used market (all brands) seems to be selling at the minute due to uncertainty with interest rates / markets etc
Only you can decide if one is worth the extra pound notes. A standard Huracan from a 600lt is a downgrade in my opinion!
I went from a 650S Spider to a Perf Spyder. Perf is better built, makes a better sound, more of an event. A better 'super car'.
Speed wise, very similar but N/A vs turbo means the delivery is different. I preferred the Huracan's more linear delivery, but when the McLaren came on boost it was nuts. Steering feel is also better in the McLaren, much more direct.
650S is more practical, boot is bigger, and the ride quality is sublime. Great for long trips. I had some issues with my McLaren during my ownership, which did affect my view of the car. On the flip side, the Huracan was flawless during my ownership.
I enjoyed my McLaren and will probably have one again in the future, but the Huracan I definitely preferred overall.
Speed wise, very similar but N/A vs turbo means the delivery is different. I preferred the Huracan's more linear delivery, but when the McLaren came on boost it was nuts. Steering feel is also better in the McLaren, much more direct.
650S is more practical, boot is bigger, and the ride quality is sublime. Great for long trips. I had some issues with my McLaren during my ownership, which did affect my view of the car. On the flip side, the Huracan was flawless during my ownership.
I enjoyed my McLaren and will probably have one again in the future, but the Huracan I definitely preferred overall.
I’m not sure where folks are getting their info from, but a Performante is slightly quicker than both Macs 675 and 600, certainly on track, and in real world road conditions (up to 100mph)
Having driven both makes, I would say that Macs tend to ride a lot better on road than the Perf, which imo means you have to drive them at a higher speed to feel fast.
If you’re buying a Perf then get the comfort seats… hth.
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/62f6zc0aln4g
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng
lambo666 said:
Compared to a 600LT, a Huracan is better built, better sound, but that is about it. I have a 600LT Spyder which is up for sale, but I will probably keep it as I don't really need the money, but more importantly, there is nothing that gives you the speed / thrill at this price point (150k ish).
I would only consider a Huracan Perf Spyder (which is a tiny bit slower) as a minor upgrade really, and I don't understand why the price point of these has gone up so much (225k plus) for a decent one. I would not consider any other model than a Huracan perf spyder with comfort seats.
Nothing from above 150k on the used market (all brands) seems to be selling at the minute due to uncertainty with interest rates / markets etc
Only you can decide if one is worth the extra pound notes. A standard Huracan from a 600lt is a downgrade in my opinion!
Your car looks stunning buddy,, love the wheels .I would only consider a Huracan Perf Spyder (which is a tiny bit slower) as a minor upgrade really, and I don't understand why the price point of these has gone up so much (225k plus) for a decent one. I would not consider any other model than a Huracan perf spyder with comfort seats.
Nothing from above 150k on the used market (all brands) seems to be selling at the minute due to uncertainty with interest rates / markets etc
Only you can decide if one is worth the extra pound notes. A standard Huracan from a 600lt is a downgrade in my opinion!
s2000db said:
I’m not sure where folks are getting their info from, but a Performante is slightly quicker than both Macs 675 and 600, certainly on track, and in real world road conditions (up to 100mph)
Having driven both makes, I would say that Macs tend to ride a lot better on road than the Perf, which imo means you have to drive them at a higher speed to feel fast.
If you’re buying a Perf then get the comfort seats… hth.
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/62f6zc0aln4g
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng
Far to much focus is placed in lap times and stats, the real benchmark of a car owned and driven on the road is more about grin and fun factor whilst keeping it more or less legal.Having driven both makes, I would say that Macs tend to ride a lot better on road than the Perf, which imo means you have to drive them at a higher speed to feel fast.
If you’re buying a Perf then get the comfort seats… hth.
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/62f6zc0aln4g
https://fastestlaps.com/comparisons/ksdp1gsvosng
I am currently fortunate enough to own a few cars, GT3, Exige 410, 458 and 600 LT Spider, I'd summarise them as follows:
- Exige 410: Best track car by miles, when excluding lap times, it is the most fun, it is more than quick enough and it cost hardly nothing to track, just drive there, drive the wheels of it, drive home and have practically no wear to your tyres or brakes. On the road it is bordering too much, those who daily them, well done! Only next stop on is a Caterham or dedicated track/race car.
- 458: Most thrilling road car by miles, it delivers the grin factor, the smiles and so much of them whilst remaining at legal speeds, yes it can go silly fast but what I love about it, is I rarely never need too, plus it is such an event to drive, feels so special, sounds epic and has been very cheap to own in my ownership of 4 years, can also get plenty of luggage in and done plenty of road trips, surprisingly good on track too just not many people track them as the brakes are a bit weak stock unless hot, I am now running steels, big improvement.
GT3: Best sounding car by miles both inside and outside if you like the motorsport noise. On the road though it does not feel special, not much of an event but very easy to use and drive anywhere, but it does egg you on, at normal speeds its nothing special, but rev it out to 9000rpm and you just keep chasing redline, very capable on both road and track but more suited towards track.
600 LT Spider: Bonkers quick on road, faster on track too (in my hands), has a real connected feeling been a solid carbon tub and hydraulic steering, plus roof down at press of a button and no skuttle shake or other associated issues with dropping the roof, absolutely insane looks with the top mount exhaust and the whip cracks on downshifts are somewhat laughter inducing and it never tires. But a bit like the GT3 you want to pedal it fast on the road and it is a far quicker car than the GT3 and the power delivery is more an event, sounds nowhere near as good though but handles and steers better, stops better too. Plus it is such an event to drive again, feels very special and is rather practical with decent front frunk and small boot where roof goes and space behind seats (a little). At 150k for a Spider I honestly don't think there is a better supercar on the market for under 200k, they are so good and pretty damn rare too, like only 150 cars sold in Spider form in UK. Very expensive to keep tracking though, all my other cars cost less to track as the 600 LT will eat brakes, tyres and needs a pre and post inspection by Mclaren.
Most fun on track is the slowest of the bunch, the Exige.
Most fun on road is the 458 due to the really short gearing and it having so much instant firepower, it revs to 9000rpm but you don't need to if that makes sense, whereas in the GT3 you need too and you want too.
Biggest event to drive, tough call between the 458 and 600 LT, I am gonna give it to the latter because its a Spider and even though my 458 is yellow, my 600 LT gets more looks no doubt due to the spoiler, splitter, top mount exhaust and roof down. 458 is the keep forever car though, so make of that what you will, but I do love the 600 LT! But its the only Mclaren I'd buy, I find the super series with hydraulic suspension less involving, so not for me.
I am very fortunate but all the Lamborghini's I've driven on road and track, I've never actually wanted to buy one, the closest I came was a Performante with comfort seats, as the race seats of the most aweful and most uncomfortable seats I've ever sat in, comfort seats are a must in a Perf. Whereas in a GT3 buckets are a must, as they are in a 600 LT, just decide between P1 or Senna, P1 for comfort, Senna for the art.
Edited by Gibbo205 on Tuesday 1st November 13:46
That is a very informative post above, and I agree on every point. Just to note on speed, my 600lt spyder actually pulls up slowly to a huracan perf spyder (real world driving - not on track or on standing launches) as I am regularly out on the road with one.
Also to note though, driving on multiple occasions, and on tours etc, the only car that I have been with that is noticeably faster than everything else is a slightly tuned 720 S.
That really pulls when in 3rd / 4th. Everything else on par with each other on the road, so just a matter of what type of car / noise / shape does it for you.....
Also to note though, driving on multiple occasions, and on tours etc, the only car that I have been with that is noticeably faster than everything else is a slightly tuned 720 S.
That really pulls when in 3rd / 4th. Everything else on par with each other on the road, so just a matter of what type of car / noise / shape does it for you.....
Bispal said:
My thoughts, for what they are worth.
When I sold my 12C I considered the standard Huracan, drove a few, liked it as a 'car' but not as dynamic as the 12C, can be quiet if you need it to be and not draw attention. However the luggage is woeful so had to rule it out as could not be used for euro tours 2 up for 2 weeks. Drove a couple of perf's too. They were too 'in your face' for me and the seats were rock hard and the engine full on all the time. It was like sitting on a church pew with chainsaw behind you. Ended up with the 675LT, dual personality on the one hand quiet, comfortable. lots of luggage space, on the other hand raw, dynamic, visceral and as quick as anything you can buy. A real adrenalin hit if you need it. LT McLaren's can be a latte or a double ristretto whereas the Huracan was only ever espresso all the time. The 600LT is an awesome car, driven a few of those too definitely worth keeping hold of and difficult to know where to go for a change if you want parity.
You're a poet When I sold my 12C I considered the standard Huracan, drove a few, liked it as a 'car' but not as dynamic as the 12C, can be quiet if you need it to be and not draw attention. However the luggage is woeful so had to rule it out as could not be used for euro tours 2 up for 2 weeks. Drove a couple of perf's too. They were too 'in your face' for me and the seats were rock hard and the engine full on all the time. It was like sitting on a church pew with chainsaw behind you. Ended up with the 675LT, dual personality on the one hand quiet, comfortable. lots of luggage space, on the other hand raw, dynamic, visceral and as quick as anything you can buy. A real adrenalin hit if you need it. LT McLaren's can be a latte or a double ristretto whereas the Huracan was only ever espresso all the time. The 600LT is an awesome car, driven a few of those too definitely worth keeping hold of and difficult to know where to go for a change if you want parity.
Thank you everyone for the input, much appreciated.
I've not had a Ferrari or Lambo, so wanting to scratch the itch as much as anything.
With 458 values increasing, might make sense to try one sooner rather than later, and then try the Huracan in a year or 2?
Is the 458 really that much better than a 488? Prices are almost at parity these days.
Gibbo205 said:
Far to much focus is placed in lap times and stats, the real benchmark of a car owned and driven on the road is more about grin and fun factor whilst keeping it more or less legal.
This really resonates with me - the performance of all the cars mentioned is superb, so when it comes to speed it really is splitting hairs (IMO)I've not had a Ferrari or Lambo, so wanting to scratch the itch as much as anything.
With 458 values increasing, might make sense to try one sooner rather than later, and then try the Huracan in a year or 2?
Is the 458 really that much better than a 488? Prices are almost at parity these days.
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