What to get ? Around 150k

[Josewick]

Having sold my LP560 spyder for some time, I have an itch to get back in the game. This is probably the last super sports I will buy until I move to Rolls Royce so I intend to keep the car for a good 10+ years (may be keeping it for good) and therefore I am looking for something that will hold its value very well.

I have a thing about convertible so this is a must and I have my eyes on the following models but I do not know much about them.

Huracan
720s (not seen a convertible one for my price range)
650s (the rear end is not appealing)
458
488
Portofino

I used to be huge Lamborghini fan and still is and it’s wow reaction is addictive, however they do not tend to hold their value at all and as I get older, I appreciate more on Ferrari and the reason why portofino is on the list as I really like 2+2 option because the inflexibility of a 2 seater meaning I ended up using it less than 1k miles a year. (This happens to my LP560)

Any advice / opinions are welcome.

Thanks

J

[adamellisdj]

458 spyder is going to hold well and is a nice change from the Lambo. I have seen some stunning ones for sale.

[Trev450]

I think my money would go on a nice 458 as well.

[adamellisdj]

I just purchased my 2014 coupe with 6k miles, £20k of carbon, race seats, 2 year warranty for £155k

Absolutely mind blowing in the metal.

Edited by adamellisdj on Wednesday 24th March 11:04

[indapendentlee]

I'm a self-confessed McLaren fanboy but while I'd definitely recommend looking at 720S Spider or 600LT Spider (720S probably 160-70k though), I think I'd be tempted to get something a little more emotionally engaging if it's a 10 year car. 458 has a bit of the 'last of its kind' about it and 150k gets you a very very nice one.

That said, there is a 'high' mileage (30k) 675Lt for sale with the P1 seats and clubsport pack. I think it's the best car McLaren have made and at the money gets you into the 'limited' variant which you can't do with Ferrari.

A nice problem to have!

[petjam]

Personally I would try an add an extra £20k or so and get into a Performante. Prices (fingers crossed) appear to be quite solid.

I test drove all on your list and the 600LT edged it for me. I bought one and, well, standard McLaren put an end to that dream.

Got out of that and into the Perf and haven't looked back.

[WCZ]

458, 675, 720

in that order

[Pioneer]

It would be a 458 for me also. Currently looking at McL but not quite with your budget. Have been tempted to spend a bit more to get into a 458 but I'm mentally slapping my wrist

[andrew]

keeping a car for ten years, driving it at all and expecting it not to depreciate is a bit optimistic imho
reliability comes to the fore and arguably eliminates half your list, whilst introducing the nsx and the german stuff of which we do not speak

[Ferruccio]

Josewick said:

so I intend to keep the car for a good 10+ years (may be keeping it for good) and therefore I am looking for something that will hold its value very well.

If it’s worth 50% in 10 years’ time that’d probably be a real result on the cars you’re looking at?

[adamellisdj]

Well speced 458s may well be worth more than they are now in 10 years.

[garystoybox]

Honestly, can’t think of anything worse than choosing a supercar primarily based on what it ‘may’ be worth in the future. Who knows? Got to be super optimistic to think that any of these cars won’t depreciate as there are so many of them saturating the market (there are over 600 458 Spiders in the uk and the figures must be similar for the other vehicles under consideration).
May as well just try them all as lockdown ending and buy whichever tickles your fancy the most. Portofino has held up well, but must be under price pressure soon with updated M model arriving to the uk in the coming weeks.
Given the economic conditions I honestly can’t see how the current bubble in prices won’t see everything drop in price over next 12-18 months.

[WCZ]

garystoybox said:

Honestly, can’t think of anything worse than choosing a supercar primarily based on what it ‘may’ be worth in the future. Who knows?

some things stand more of a chance than others so it's worth factoring in. you might well want a fully loaded s65amg for £150k but the depreciation is sickening for ex

I think the 458 is a good option because it's one of the best cars ever made and will remain plenty fast enough for the roads forever

[Josewick]

Thank you for the kind replies.

I wasn’t looking at no depreciation at all but rather gauging advice should this is a consideration which one of the listed would be best. No doubt 458 seems to be kind of the winner here....

And yes I forgot to look into the performante as well as they do seem to hold their value better than a standard huracan.

So how about the McL? I mean like for like performance I guess they are the winner but how do they hold their value? As I like how they look, , the curvy front and definitely the lift up doors as well as their performance but I have not been looking long enough to see how they appreciate / depreciate?

Thank you

J

[BlackR8]

andrew said:

keeping a car for ten years, driving it at all and expecting it not to depreciate is a bit optimistic imho
reliability comes to the fore and arguably eliminates half your list, whilst introducing the nsx and the german stuff of which we do not speak

Agree with this. Surely if keeping a car for 10 years or maybe forever, means that running costs are arguably more important than the resale value in 10+ years time.

With electric/hybrid's becoming more common as each day passes, 2030 date looming, and no doubt even more aggressive taxing for ICE cars it is hard to predict future resale for any car beyond the next few years I would say.

[davek_964]

Josewick said:

Thank you for the kind replies.

I wasn’t looking at no depreciation at all but rather gauging advice should this is a consideration which one of the listed would be best. No doubt 458 seems to be kind of the winner here....

And yes I forgot to look into the performante as well as they do seem to hold their value better than a standard huracan.

So how about the McL? I mean like for like performance I guess they are the winner but how do they hold their value? As I like how they look, , the curvy front and definitely the lift up doors as well as their performance but I have not been looking long enough to see how they appreciate / depreciate?

Thank you

J

458s do seem to be a law unto themselves regarding depreciation and have held value well even when many cars have dropped.

Many people will tell you that McLarens depreciate faster than anything else on the planet - so if this is a concern, then perhaps they're not for you....... But of your list:

I'd be surprised if 650 Spiders had much more left to drop - but if you don't really like the rear, doesn't seem like the best choice.
720s seem to have stabilised a bit - I think the Spider prices will hold quite well because they're not that common - but that also means they're currently probably out of your price range as you've said.

For me - although I am 100% sure they are fabulous cars and hold their price well - 458s are just too expensive for what they are. The coupe that was mentioned earlier is <at least> 50% more than a 650 Spider of similar age and mileage would be, and probably double what a 650 coupe would be. And they simply aren't 50% or 100% better cars than McLarens.

[R8Reece]

Josewick said:

Thank you for the kind replies.

I wasn’t looking at no depreciation at all but rather gauging advice should this is a consideration which one of the listed would be best. No doubt 458 seems to be kind of the winner here....

And yes I forgot to look into the performante as well as they do seem to hold their value better than a standard huracan.

So how about the McL? I mean like for like performance I guess they are the winner but how do they hold their value? As I like how they look, , the curvy front and definitely the lift up doors as well as their performance but I have not been looking long enough to see how they appreciate / depreciate?

Thank you

J

720s have dropped like a stone but seem to be levelling out. I think with McLaren, you need to consider all Macs as a stack. At the bottom you have a 12C which are £70k so 540c and 570s are likely to stay around £80k-£100k. Above that you have the 600LT, 650S and the 720S near the top.

12C did drop to £60k at one point and with the above model I can see the 720S dropping further but not to £100k surely? That would severely push the rest down a long way.

[andrew]

R8Reece said:

720s have dropped like a stone but seem to be levelling out. I think with McLaren, you need to consider all Macs as a stack. At the bottom you have a 12C which are £70k so 540c and 570s are likely to stay around £80k-£100k. Above that you have the 600LT, 650S and the 720S near the top.

12C did drop to £60k at one point and with the above model I can see the 720S dropping further but not to £100k surely? That would severely push the rest down a long way.

but stacking comes undone when cars get a little older
a quick look at say the 246/308//328/348 lineage or older 911 prices kiboshes stacking

[MDL111]

BlackR8 said:

andrew said:

keeping a car for ten years, driving it at all and expecting it not to depreciate is a bit optimistic imho
reliability comes to the fore and arguably eliminates half your list, whilst introducing the nsx and the german stuff of which we do not speak

Agree with this. Surely if keeping a car for 10 years or maybe forever, means that running costs are arguably more important than the resale value in 10+ years time.

With electric/hybrid's becoming more common as each day passes, 2030 date looming, and no doubt even more aggressive taxing for ICE cars it is hard to predict future resale for any car beyond the next few years I would say.

Imo there will be a lot fewer buyers (people even now not that interested in sportscars anymore) and as they will be more expensive and more difficult (due to lower number of owners) to service, tax, fuel, insure when everything is auto-driving, i thinkn all these cars will be worth a lot less than today and quite a few of them will likely be unsellable
The cars that will be worth something will be the ones that can be taken racing or to prestigious concours events (as the real enthusiasts and really rich people will still do that to a degree but again fewer than nowadays)

[MDL111]

and to answer the question - at that budget and modern convertible I would probably go for one of these. Drive a V12 until we are no longer allowed to do so

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10340810?c...