Heart says supercar, head (and wife) says be more sensible
Discussion
It's new car time and for the last year I've had a 4.4 V8 Range Rover Sport, which came about as an expected desire to be sensible, having previously driven a F430, R8, Vantage V8 and 911. My heart wants a 540, a 570, or a 991, possibly a 458. I drive 5k miles a year max.
The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
Caddyshack said:
I would not part a supercar on the street in London long term. RR svr would be great in London.
Apart from posing I cannot work out why anyone would want to use a supercar in London. If I had to drive in tomorrow I would take my Rangie, never my Porsche (manual)
There's plenty of them about! It's parked mostly on a driveway so safe enough...but it will on occasion need to be parked on a road or a regular car park. Apart from posing I cannot work out why anyone would want to use a supercar in London. If I had to drive in tomorrow I would take my Rangie, never my Porsche (manual)
stompboxx said:
It's new car time and for the last year I've had a 4.4 V8 Range Rover Sport, which came about as an expected desire to be sensible, having previously driven a F430, R8, Vantage V8 and 911. My heart wants a 540, a 570, or a 991, possibly a 458. I drive 5k miles a year max.
The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
Do it now before the dog and the kids come alone, unless you will be in a position to have both a Range Rover and Super Car The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
when they do arrive. You can always sell your super car and get the SVR at a later date ,at least you would have scratched that itch.
and go back to a super car when they are grown up but that's not a quick process.
I think the question is how many of those 5k miles will you be doing outside London where you can enjoy the car and exploit it’s capabilities?
I lived in London for 20 years from when I was single and enjoying life to wife and two kids (enjoyable but in a different way !) ....moved out 5 years ago. I gave up having a fun/sports car in London before kids came along because I found it frustrating and speed bumps were on the increase but nothing as bad as they are today along with the 20 mph zone. Maybe something a bit more practical like a 911 if that means you’ll use it more ? From a cur nut perspective one of the best things I did was move out of London ! My wife might disagree....
I lived in London for 20 years from when I was single and enjoying life to wife and two kids (enjoyable but in a different way !) ....moved out 5 years ago. I gave up having a fun/sports car in London before kids came along because I found it frustrating and speed bumps were on the increase but nothing as bad as they are today along with the 20 mph zone. Maybe something a bit more practical like a 911 if that means you’ll use it more ? From a cur nut perspective one of the best things I did was move out of London ! My wife might disagree....
If you want a supercar, get a supercar. I recently posted about my situation. I have kids and had a Huracan, I then thought that buying a Urus would replace the Huracan’s drama and be a great daily. There was nothing wrong with the Urus and it is a great daily but in no way did it fulfil my urge to have a supercar in the garage. I sold the Urus and bought a Range Rover and now have a 458. While you don’t have the kids get a supercar and then worry about what to do when/if they come along would be my advice.
elanfan said:
Tesla Model S? Fast as feck think 0-60 is 2.2 seconds. No congestion charge. No road tax.
Use as mad as you like or potter on school run. Doubt you’ll ever have range issues.
OP is talking about thrills and noise so I doubt this meets the brief. It’s also ugly as sin but I suppose it’s sensible. Use as mad as you like or potter on school run. Doubt you’ll ever have range issues.
Assumptions:
1) Your budget is at least £115K (based on lowest price 458 on AT). Cash purchase
2) You have the space to park two cars.
3) The current RR Sport is owned outright / no finance. You don’t need to use it as a PX to purchase supercar
I would keep RRS and purchase a McLaren 650S for sub-£100k, or a 570S - I personally would opt for the 650S.
I was in a similar situation and decided to keep the RRS and bought a McLaren, intended as the weekend / 2nd vehicle. The reality is that the McLaren has racked up 10K miles during 2020 and the RRS less than 2K miles (and I live in the country). The McLaren is just so useable as a DD I can’t think of any other ‘supercar’ to fill its boots.
You mention ‘depreciation monster’ in regards to the AM, but with the 650S pretty much towards the bottom of the depreciation curve, you’ll not suffer. Your RRS will depreciate more. As a matter-of-fact, recent activity in the classifieds and discussions with other McLaren owners, indicate that the 650S pricing is at the bottom of depreciation and is on the rebound. Nigh on 720S performance (in real world road use) but for less than £100K - bargain.
Whatever your funding arrangements (PX, Cash or Finance) just buy a McLaren and enjoy the experience of owning a fabulous piece of engineering. If posing is your thang, a McLaren gets 10/10 from Joe Public in the street-cred ratings. Without fail, people will engage you in positive discussion complimenting you on the car.
Fly the flag for the British motor industry.
650S write up > https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-...
1) Your budget is at least £115K (based on lowest price 458 on AT). Cash purchase
2) You have the space to park two cars.
3) The current RR Sport is owned outright / no finance. You don’t need to use it as a PX to purchase supercar
I would keep RRS and purchase a McLaren 650S for sub-£100k, or a 570S - I personally would opt for the 650S.
I was in a similar situation and decided to keep the RRS and bought a McLaren, intended as the weekend / 2nd vehicle. The reality is that the McLaren has racked up 10K miles during 2020 and the RRS less than 2K miles (and I live in the country). The McLaren is just so useable as a DD I can’t think of any other ‘supercar’ to fill its boots.
You mention ‘depreciation monster’ in regards to the AM, but with the 650S pretty much towards the bottom of the depreciation curve, you’ll not suffer. Your RRS will depreciate more. As a matter-of-fact, recent activity in the classifieds and discussions with other McLaren owners, indicate that the 650S pricing is at the bottom of depreciation and is on the rebound. Nigh on 720S performance (in real world road use) but for less than £100K - bargain.
Whatever your funding arrangements (PX, Cash or Finance) just buy a McLaren and enjoy the experience of owning a fabulous piece of engineering. If posing is your thang, a McLaren gets 10/10 from Joe Public in the street-cred ratings. Without fail, people will engage you in positive discussion complimenting you on the car.
Fly the flag for the British motor industry.
650S write up > https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/used-cars/used-...
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 2nd January 09:38
MAC 720S said:
You mention ‘depreciation monster’ in regards to the AM, but with the 650S pretty much towards the bottom of the depreciation curve, you’ll not suffer. Your RRS will depreciate more. As a matter-of-fact, recent activity in the classifieds and discussions with other McLaren owners, indicate that the 650S pricing is at the bottom of depreciation and is on the rebound. Nigh on 720S performance (in real world road use) but for less than £100K - bargain.
Please don’t make any decisions based on this part of what he said, everything will lose you money right now. RRS will get hammered though as well. The rest of the logic is very sound. The Macs are incredible value and offer a lot of performance and great looks.Drl22 said:
Please don’t make any decisions based on this part of what he said, everything will lose you money right now. RRS will get hammered though as well. The rest of the logic is very sound. The Macs are incredible value and offer a lot of performance and great looks.
I have been following the prices of 650S closely for several months as I am likely to buy a 650 Spider. What part of what I said is incorrect?stompboxx said:
It's new car time and for the last year I've had a 4.4 V8 Range Rover Sport, which came about as an expected desire to be sensible, having previously driven a F430, R8, Vantage V8 and 911. My heart wants a 540, a 570, or a 991, possibly a 458. I drive 5k miles a year max.
The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
Do you park on street overnight? How often do you drive out of London into the countryside? Will it be your only car? The sensible part of me says get another SUV, maybe a RRS SVR or even a Bentayga (the Cayenne Turbo does nothing for me for some reason) - and that those cars are quick enough to give me the straight line thrills, the noise (SVR anyway) and will still be able to allow me to do the things that my other thinks are very important, such as driving other people on occasion, and accommodating the dog and children that we don't yet have.
What do you think? Would an SVR and the ludicrous noise be enough to satisfy the supercar urge? Or is a Mclaren the only way forward if I've got to scratch an itch. I live in London, so speed bumps, street parking and general city things are all considerations....
If I lived in central London (I live in South London / Surrey) I would get the supercar I wanted and drive it out of London at weekends and buy a £5k car like a mini for driving around London or buy a £10k classic like an E30 or MGB or ??? and get your kicks / fun another way. I just don't see the point of a supercar in London, they are hard to park, constant worry, can't use the performace, attract too much attention, slow over speed bumps, width restrictions. Its not what they are made for. They need to be enjoyed in the wild. In the 5 years I have owned supercars I haven never driven any 12 miles into central London (unless my 981 Spyder counts which I did at 1am once). As has been said above there is a reason why there are so many 911's in central London. Decide what you want to use it for first?
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