This or a Singer?

[browngt3]

Perhaps a tough decision if you could only choose one. The craftsmanship, engineering and attention to detail that goes into producing these restomods is truly breathtaking.

I'm sure if I posted this in the Porsche forum it would be an overwhelming victory for the 911 so let's see how we do here Which would you choose?

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

It was looking good until the "Energised by Mototechnica"...dear god.

[hornbaek]

Interesting project. Thanks for showing yet i do believe, that the Porsche is a better „base“ for retro-modding than the 308 as the Singer just looks more complete. I think the 308evo looks over wheeled and the protruding arches distort the otherwise perfect silhouette of the original design. Id rather have a restored original 308 rather than the evo. With the Porsche its the other way around.

[someday]

Needs smaller wheels and fatter tyres. Do they not put air filters on? Is that OK?

[MDL111]

I generally like it, but the wheel tyre combo is too big for me and I really do not like these small clear engine covers

Edit: I assume this costs (a lot) less than a Singer. If same money definitely a Singer for me. At say 200-250k I think an accurate Group 4 308 replica would take the win for me

Edited by MDL111 on Tuesday 29th December 12:13

[Cheib]

The wheels are shocking...something I don’t like about the presentation style of the video if I am honest, It’s a biit “we’re the best in the business”...rather than let the product speak for itself. The only thing I do know is that O’Rourke coach trimmers are supposed to be absolutely superb and the “go to” people if you’re looking for a new interior for anything special.

[SydneyBridge]

Singer every time, an absolute work of art.
Ferrari's dont look good resto modded, they look better as original
911's have evolved over time so the Singer does not look wrong

[FezSpider]

It's that wonderful 246 evo dino that gets my vote every day. Rather that over the singer, and I love the singer.
The David Lee Dino is my holy grail of any car.
https://youtu.be/qnt0DNqJYvM

Edited by FezSpider on Tuesday 29th December 16:46

[Lee Jones Jnr]

In a this or that then I would pick this over a Singer assuming that the only factor in the decision is 'which do you prefer' rather than values etc but on the whole I'm not into the older cars.
If I were going for a repurposed classic I think I would have a specialist rebuild a Lotus Esprit.

[LaurasOtherHalf]

It was driven in Evo recently wasn’t it? They didn’t think it was very well resolved if I remember correctly.

[FezSpider]

Lee Jones Jnr said:

In a this or that then I would pick this over a Singer assuming that the only factor in the decision is 'which do you prefer' rather than values etc but on the whole I'm not into the older cars.
If I were going for a repurposed classic I think I would have a specialist rebuild a Lotus Esprit.

Which Esprit model? 80s 2ltr turbo or 90s V8 twin turbo?
I love the 90s car, very underrated imo.

[Lee Jones Jnr]

FezSpider said:

Which model? 80s 2ltr turbo or 90s V8 twin turbo?
I love the 90s car, very underrated imo.

As and when a decent late model (98? whenever the last interior upgrade was) V8 crops up thats the one for me.
In an ideal world it will be in silver and I will play 'Wild Women Do' on the radio cassette player whenever I'm driving it.

[FezSpider]

Lee Jones Jnr said:

As and when a decent late model (98? whenever the last interior upgrade was) V8 crops up thats the one for me.
In an ideal world it will be in silver and I will play 'Wild Women Do' on the radio cassette player whenever I'm driving it.

Yea , I remember about 5 years ago I met up with an Esprit twin turbo when I was driving the 355 along the dolomite alpes. Had some great to a fro's with they guy for many many miles. Not much between each car and it was awesome. We both stopped of for some lunch and went back at it after. It was a swiss esprit and I loved it

[Lee Jones Jnr]

FezSpider said:

Yea , I remember about 5 years ago I met up with an Esprit twin turbo when I was driving the 355 along the dolomite alpes. Had some great to a fro's with they guy for many many miles. Not much between each car and it was awesome. We both stopped of for some lunch and went back at it after. It was a swiss esprit and I loved it

When I was a young man my father did business with a guy who always had Esprits, 'Darren from Tamworth' seeing as you asked. I'm pretty sure he was a pervert but I always liked the cars. I'm not sure if it was pre or post Pretty Woman when I first saw his but the last one I remember was a 1993 GT3.
I actually saw one yesterday, only through the window as they were closed, at a car sales place in Congleton that have a car I was interested in. I don't know if it is new in or about to leave but it isn't on their website at the moment.

[Gameface]

LaurasOtherHalf said:

It was driven in Evo recently wasn’t it? They didn’t think it was very well resolved if I remember correctly.

It was but it wasn't the finished article IIRC.

[rat rod]

First impression was WOW especially in that shade of green, instantly reminded me of my green GTB i owned some time ago,

Like the wheels but as already been said they look to big for the car,reminds me of a clumsy puppy with legs to big for it's body,

Easy fix , just down size them , love the throttle body exposed trumpets and Capristo exhaust. interior is to die for but for

some reason i'm not jumping up and down like i should be but not sure why.

Sounds silly but It's almost to nice , Think i prefer my old battle scared war horse of a GTB, it's like that comfy old arm chair that your wife
can't wait to throw out..

Being a Ferrari person more than Porsche i think i would go for the Singer if money no object,

Do we know the price of both ?

If the price is more than a Chairs and Flares Dino or pre- anniversary Countach i'll have one of those please instead

and pass on both the Singer 911 and Evo GTB , sorry my answer is not what you asked .

Edited by rat rod on Tuesday 29th December 18:50

[supersport]

Singer with that stunning Metzger, Williams engine.

I saw the Ferrari in Evo, not sure it works. As someone else said, not sure Ferrari’s work as restos like oldish 911s do.

[leef44]

Cheib said:

The wheels are shocking...something I don’t like about the presentation style of the video if I am honest, It’s a biit “we’re the best in the business”...rather than let the product speak for itself. The only thing I do know is that O’Rourke coach trimmers are supposed to be absolutely superb and the “go to” people if you’re looking for a new interior for anything special.

Yes the presentation style is a bit too much for me. In the Singer interview in the past, the owner seemed much more laid back but showing so much passion for detail - like Pagani.

The wheels with the protruding wheel arches spoils it for me. Other than that, the 388 looks perfect in detail and engineering. Very desirable.

I would still choose the Singer because it looked like it handled similarly to the original but with a bit more control going from the videos.

I guess the 388 would be similarly priced to the Singer. I think it was 500k USD

[cgt2]

FezSpider said:

It's that wonderful 246 evo dino that gets my vote every day. Rather that over the singer, and I love the singer.
The David Lee Dino is my holy grail of any car.
https://youtu.be/qnt0DNqJYvM

Edited by FezSpider on Tuesday 29th December 16:46

Good shout.

[birdcage]

Singer for me. Also sounded like he was about to tell me to ‘shut up you shlaaaaag’ which was quite un ferrari like