My First Supercar... 458 or Huracan?
Discussion
Hi there,
I have been a long time 'reader / follower' of the forum, but this is actually my first post.
I am looking to buy my first supercar before Christmas, and I would love to hear some of your thoughts, advice, and i'm sure a few arguments among the group :-)
I have narrowed it down to a 458 or Huracan. Let me also get a few points out of the way, which might help keep the topic on track :-)
- My somewhat relevant car experience extends to 2 modern 911s over the last 4 years, all of which were standard Carrera S's, and I currently have a Ferrari 355 too which I plan to keep as a classic (lets call the 355 a classic supercar for now)
- I want to experience another brand (i.e - I'm not interested in a GT3 or another Porsche, for now)
- I do plan to buy a McLaren some day, but for now I want a naturally aspirated engine (so that rules out a Mclaren, for now)
- I'm not interested in a Ferrari 488 because I want a naturally aspirated engine, and a Performante and Huracan Evo are out of my budget for now.
- I plan to keep the car a max of 18 to 24 months
To be honest, I am not interested in anything else other than a 458 or a Huracan (i.e - so that rules out some of the older Ferrari and Lamborghini greats)
I probably prefer Ferrari as a brand, but I know now, that if I don't buy a Lamborghini now, I'll likely never experience the brand, as my goal is a 458 Speciale down the road, however don't let that rule out a standard 458 for now.
I've been reading lots on both the dedicated Ferrari and Lamborghini sections / sub forums here on PistonHeads, and I've learned lots, but as time passes on, I think some of the older posts become somewhat irrelevant. I also wanted to post this in the General Supercars forum, so that people hopefully reply with their head and not with their heart, just because they happen to own one of the above (see, I told you i've been reading all of the arguments :-)
Anyway, thanks for reading this far, and hopefully I will gain some further knowledge that will help me choose the right car for me.
Simon
I have been a long time 'reader / follower' of the forum, but this is actually my first post.
I am looking to buy my first supercar before Christmas, and I would love to hear some of your thoughts, advice, and i'm sure a few arguments among the group :-)
I have narrowed it down to a 458 or Huracan. Let me also get a few points out of the way, which might help keep the topic on track :-)
- My somewhat relevant car experience extends to 2 modern 911s over the last 4 years, all of which were standard Carrera S's, and I currently have a Ferrari 355 too which I plan to keep as a classic (lets call the 355 a classic supercar for now)
- I want to experience another brand (i.e - I'm not interested in a GT3 or another Porsche, for now)
- I do plan to buy a McLaren some day, but for now I want a naturally aspirated engine (so that rules out a Mclaren, for now)
- I'm not interested in a Ferrari 488 because I want a naturally aspirated engine, and a Performante and Huracan Evo are out of my budget for now.
- I plan to keep the car a max of 18 to 24 months
To be honest, I am not interested in anything else other than a 458 or a Huracan (i.e - so that rules out some of the older Ferrari and Lamborghini greats)
I probably prefer Ferrari as a brand, but I know now, that if I don't buy a Lamborghini now, I'll likely never experience the brand, as my goal is a 458 Speciale down the road, however don't let that rule out a standard 458 for now.
I've been reading lots on both the dedicated Ferrari and Lamborghini sections / sub forums here on PistonHeads, and I've learned lots, but as time passes on, I think some of the older posts become somewhat irrelevant. I also wanted to post this in the General Supercars forum, so that people hopefully reply with their head and not with their heart, just because they happen to own one of the above (see, I told you i've been reading all of the arguments :-)
Anyway, thanks for reading this far, and hopefully I will gain some further knowledge that will help me choose the right car for me.
Simon
Both will attract attention, have similar running costs and be relatively reliable. Some differences:
Ferrari - has the prestige, likely to depreciate less, more likely to attract (any) negative attention, other owners likely to be more civilised in their driving (for meets)
Lamborghini - additional theatre, NA V10 wins (just) on aural excitement, the noise, attention possibly more positive from joe public, owning experience more driving orientated?
Being very picky there BTW and I would find it difficult to choose....!
Ferrari - has the prestige, likely to depreciate less, more likely to attract (any) negative attention, other owners likely to be more civilised in their driving (for meets)
Lamborghini - additional theatre, NA V10 wins (just) on aural excitement, the noise, attention possibly more positive from joe public, owning experience more driving orientated?
Being very picky there BTW and I would find it difficult to choose....!
Edited by R8Reece on Sunday 8th November 19:42
I instruct for several of the Supercar Experience Day companies so spend a lot of time, sometimes 8 hours a day, in both 458 and Huracans. I find the Huracan not as comfortable, they certainly do not make it easy for a tall driver and the Huracan Spider is even shorter in cabin space. The 458 feels more nimble, steering much sharper but as a downside it can bite, feels more like a race car on the road. The Huracan is loud and brash, engine note is great especially if you have a valve controller to keep the exhaust valve open. Servicing is cheaper with the Ferrari which is often overlooked, and depending on the year may still have some free servicing which you don't get with the Huracan.
If I had to sum it up simply the 458 is the driver's car and the Huracan is the car for picking up the girls at the wine bar.
As an aside I bought a 458 four years ago and still use it regularly.
If I had to sum it up simply the 458 is the driver's car and the Huracan is the car for picking up the girls at the wine bar.
As an aside I bought a 458 four years ago and still use it regularly.
Both similar cars and both arguably the best options at their price point when it comes to a NA route. Hard to choose between the two.
458 is probably a smidge more raw than a Huracan, the latter a little more refined. Both pick girls up from wine bars especially drop tops.
Personally I think a bigger difference would be between having a drop top version or not?
458 is probably a smidge more raw than a Huracan, the latter a little more refined. Both pick girls up from wine bars especially drop tops.
Personally I think a bigger difference would be between having a drop top version or not?
rog007 said:
You’re possibly more qualified than many to comment having driven both. Which did you prefer?
I literally can't separate them. I would be happy with either car. Considering I already have a 355 and would like to get a Speciale at some stage, I am probably 50.5% leaning towards a Huracan, and 49.5% 458.Can't speak for the Hurricane or the 458 but owning the two previous models simultaneously i can give some insight to owning one or the
other.The Gallardo always gets a positive reception with thumbs up,kids waving,phone camera 's coming out and can little Jonny have
his photo taken sat in the car,people don't even care that it's got the wrong doors, I very much doubt if this would happen if in Central London
where it would be considered obsolete.
The reception with the 430 couldn't be any different,instead of thumbs up and waves all i get is white van man giving the finger and
the w
r sign,nobody talks to you at the petrol station which can be a advantage if in a hurry.
Although the 430 is 12 years old it still looks quite modern to those who don't know and may have that too much money footballers image
Consensus seems to be the Lambo driver doesn't take himself to seriously ,like driving with a red nose attached to the car where as the Ferrari driver does and may be a bit snooty.
After saying all that if i was to keep only one of them it would be the Ferrari every time, all round better car although i would miss all the fuss of being treated like a pop star ,in my case a ageing one.
Reverse applies to the Hurricane and the 458 ,I would go for the Hurricane every time in Verde Mantis please,
Often think about selling both and replacing them with Performante as my cars are to similar and do the same job.
Will be interesting to find out what you decide on.
other.The Gallardo always gets a positive reception with thumbs up,kids waving,phone camera 's coming out and can little Jonny have
his photo taken sat in the car,people don't even care that it's got the wrong doors, I very much doubt if this would happen if in Central London
where it would be considered obsolete.
The reception with the 430 couldn't be any different,instead of thumbs up and waves all i get is white van man giving the finger and
the w
r sign,nobody talks to you at the petrol station which can be a advantage if in a hurry.Although the 430 is 12 years old it still looks quite modern to those who don't know and may have that too much money footballers image
Consensus seems to be the Lambo driver doesn't take himself to seriously ,like driving with a red nose attached to the car where as the Ferrari driver does and may be a bit snooty.
After saying all that if i was to keep only one of them it would be the Ferrari every time, all round better car although i would miss all the fuss of being treated like a pop star ,in my case a ageing one.
Reverse applies to the Hurricane and the 458 ,I would go for the Hurricane every time in Verde Mantis please,
Often think about selling both and replacing them with Performante as my cars are to similar and do the same job.
Will be interesting to find out what you decide on.
rat rod said:
Can't speak for the Hurricane or the 458 but owning the two previous models simultaneously i can give some insight to owning one or the
other.The Gallardo always gets a positive reception with thumbs up,kids waving,phone camera 's coming out and can little Jonny have
his photo taken sat in the car,people don't even care that it's got the wrong doors, I very much doubt if this would happen if in Central London
where it would be considered obsolete.
The reception with the 430 couldn't be any different,instead of thumbs up and waves all i get is white van man giving the finger and
the wr sign,nobody talks to you at the petrol station which can be a advantage if in a hurry.
Although the 430 is 12 years old it still looks quite modern to those who don't know and may have that too much money footballers image
Consensus seems to be the Lambo driver doesn't take himself to seriously ,like driving with a red nose attached to the car where as the Ferrari driver does and may be a bit snooty.
After saying all that if i was to keep only one of them it would be the Ferrari every time, all round better car although i would miss all the fuss of being treated like a pop star ,in my case a ageing one.
Reverse applies to the Hurricane and the 458 ,I would go for the Hurricane every time in Verde Mantis please,
Often think about selling both and replacing them with Performante as my cars are to similar and do the same job.
Will be interesting to find out what you decide on.
Ok great, thank you for the detailed comparrison.other.The Gallardo always gets a positive reception with thumbs up,kids waving,phone camera 's coming out and can little Jonny have
his photo taken sat in the car,people don't even care that it's got the wrong doors, I very much doubt if this would happen if in Central London
where it would be considered obsolete.
The reception with the 430 couldn't be any different,instead of thumbs up and waves all i get is white van man giving the finger and
the w
r sign,nobody talks to you at the petrol station which can be a advantage if in a hurry.Although the 430 is 12 years old it still looks quite modern to those who don't know and may have that too much money footballers image
Consensus seems to be the Lambo driver doesn't take himself to seriously ,like driving with a red nose attached to the car where as the Ferrari driver does and may be a bit snooty.
After saying all that if i was to keep only one of them it would be the Ferrari every time, all round better car although i would miss all the fuss of being treated like a pop star ,in my case a ageing one.
Reverse applies to the Hurricane and the 458 ,I would go for the Hurricane every time in Verde Mantis please,
Often think about selling both and replacing them with Performante as my cars are to similar and do the same job.
Will be interesting to find out what you decide on.
I think it's safe to say most people are relatively split too. I will keep you posted, thanks.
I can’t give an exact comparison as I had a couple of Ferraris including a 360 Spider and later a couple of Huracans. I think most of the comments above reflect my experience. I did quite a lot of charity days with Sporting Bears and other groups such as Candlelighters, so I believe it is true, in my experience, that the Lamborghinis are universally liked by all age groups. It is also true, in my experience, that the only cars I was commended for being a merchant banker, was in the Ferrari.
However, you drive and own the car for yourself, not others, so that should be of little concern in the grand scheme of things. Also to reflect on some of the other comments above I think I would rather spend my time outside the wine bar chatting with like minded people than in the pit lane discussing 0.001g lateral grip, but that’s just my preference and neither right nor wrong.
What a great problem to have!
However, you drive and own the car for yourself, not others, so that should be of little concern in the grand scheme of things. Also to reflect on some of the other comments above I think I would rather spend my time outside the wine bar chatting with like minded people than in the pit lane discussing 0.001g lateral grip, but that’s just my preference and neither right nor wrong.
What a great problem to have!
DamanC said:
Both pick girls up from wine bars especially drop tops.
Which wine bars are these? Asking for a friend. OP. Lambo attract more attention, they are every little boys wet dream and some adults too. The V10 sitting behind makes a fabulous noise and the down shifts are great. But I think Lambo are losing their way a bit and maybe that's the Audi influence. They seem to be lacking something the older ones had in abundance. Maybe it's the styling, maybe it's the fact everything now works and they are reliable, maybe the way they drive (which is great) but whatever it is they certainly miss something. I also feel this is the same with Ferrari. Fab looking car. drives great and feels focused but you'd expect that from a Ferrari but it just feels a little bit to instagram.
Get a Murcie or a MK1 SL (Gallardo) or if you'r budget can stretch to it a 430 Scud.
I know you said you didn't want another 911 but personally given a guess at your budget I'd get a 996 GT3 RS. But it depends on what you want. Driving experience or rock star . You do actually feel great stepping out of either. Weird feeling really.
Edited by Privacy Policy on Monday 9th November 10:16
Edited by Privacy Policy on Monday 9th November 10:18
rat rod said:
Consensus seems to be the Lambo driver doesn't take himself to seriously ,like driving with a red nose attached to the car where as the Ferrari driver does and may be a bit snooty.
Someone I know who has a Ferrari was frustrated with the lack of opportunities for spirited driving with other Ferrari owners. His opinion of the Ferrari Owners Club was that most liked to drive to restaurants, eat & chat and then drive home again.It's never black and and white but it chimes with the above feedback.
458 holding up much better than the Hurracan residually and its not hard to see why. Whilst the Hurracan offers more value and you will get a much newer car for your money it will inevitably depreciate more in the short to medium term so could well end up costing more.
Hurracan has many aspects quirkier than the 458 both have great engines probably marginally better sounding engine in the L but both sound fantastic. F has better gearbox and arguably better steering if a little quick for some.
Bear in mind that the gap between the 458 Italia and Speciale is narrower than that between the Hurracan and Performante.
Your future progression to the more hardcore Speciale or Performante is an easier choice imo no contest Performante great value v the overpriced and older Speciale. Pista looks attractive even with non na engine has moved the game on great linear power delivery but likely to be Speciale money by next Spring but both these cars will still command at least a 35 %premium over a Performante which is astonishing value even now and increasingly set to be a true future classic.
Hurracan has many aspects quirkier than the 458 both have great engines probably marginally better sounding engine in the L but both sound fantastic. F has better gearbox and arguably better steering if a little quick for some.
Bear in mind that the gap between the 458 Italia and Speciale is narrower than that between the Hurracan and Performante.
Your future progression to the more hardcore Speciale or Performante is an easier choice imo no contest Performante great value v the overpriced and older Speciale. Pista looks attractive even with non na engine has moved the game on great linear power delivery but likely to be Speciale money by next Spring but both these cars will still command at least a 35 %premium over a Performante which is astonishing value even now and increasingly set to be a true future classic.
You said you want to try a different brand so you only have one option.
Also if you have been driving a 458 a few years then if you change to a 458 speciale maybe the change wont be big enough and you may think it's not worth it over a standard car where as if you go huracan to 458 speciale if may feel a lot different which will be more thrilling
Let's face it, it's going to be good either way. Just depends if you fancy somethings a little different for a while 😀
Also if you have been driving a 458 a few years then if you change to a 458 speciale maybe the change wont be big enough and you may think it's not worth it over a standard car where as if you go huracan to 458 speciale if may feel a lot different which will be more thrilling
Let's face it, it's going to be good either way. Just depends if you fancy somethings a little different for a while 😀
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