Ferrari 599 v 991 gt3
Discussion
I am looking at buying a 599 or 911 gt3 but can’t decide. Both cars are now £100k but very different.
The Ferrari is half price. Has a v12 from Enron and sounds incredible. The looks have matured beautifully and looks closest to a modern Daytona. Interior has full character, carbon and style.
My concerned the gearbox will be s
t and the car will feel too big and heavy.
The GT3 sounds incredible too. Looks are purposeful, sporty and surprisingly understated compared to an RS or Ferrari. However I was shocked how st the interior is. The car I looked at today didn’t have buckets and it felt like I was sitting in a poor specked Boxster or even a Golf R. I do currently drive an Aston which feels special even sitting in traffic.
Any thoughts?
The Ferrari is half price. Has a v12 from Enron and sounds incredible. The looks have matured beautifully and looks closest to a modern Daytona. Interior has full character, carbon and style.
My concerned the gearbox will be s
t and the car will feel too big and heavy.The GT3 sounds incredible too. Looks are purposeful, sporty and surprisingly understated compared to an RS or Ferrari. However I was shocked how s
t the interior is. The car I looked at today didn’t have buckets and it felt like I was sitting in a poor specked Boxster or even a Golf R. I do currently drive an Aston which feels special even sitting in traffic. Any thoughts?
Buckets improve the GT3 experience hugely as you sit in the cars chassis as opposed to on it. Hence you feel an extension of the car.
Other interior improvements lift the interior such as extended leather and carbon both of which most buyers demand.
Assuming you are talking about a 991.1 GT3 at £100k btw. An engine history check would be useful as most cars will have had at least one replacement engine most of which were initially OPC swap but some May 2014 production cars were factory swap and the balance of an original 10 year Porsche engine warranty usually runs with the car.
Other interior improvements lift the interior such as extended leather and carbon both of which most buyers demand.
Assuming you are talking about a 991.1 GT3 at £100k btw. An engine history check would be useful as most cars will have had at least one replacement engine most of which were initially OPC swap but some May 2014 production cars were factory swap and the balance of an original 10 year Porsche engine warranty usually runs with the car.
The two cars are not so different. Naturally aspirated, rear wheel drive and flappy paddle.
The gt3 I looked at was miserable spec. No buckets or extended leather. The doors didn’t even have aluminium or carbon trim. I’m positive the gt3 will feel like a race car on the right road at the right time. I think the Ferrari will feel like a £200k all the time.
Difficult choice.
I did look at McLarens again but Depreciation put me off. I was a 12c owner.
The gt3 I looked at was miserable spec. No buckets or extended leather. The doors didn’t even have aluminium or carbon trim. I’m positive the gt3 will feel like a race car on the right road at the right time. I think the Ferrari will feel like a £200k all the time.
Difficult choice.
I did look at McLarens again but Depreciation put me off. I was a 12c owner.
Jumpingjackflash said:
The two cars are not so different. Naturally aspirated, rear wheel drive and flappy paddle.
The gt3 I looked at was miserable spec. No buckets or extended leather. The doors didn’t even have aluminium or carbon trim. I’m positive the gt3 will feel like a race car on the right road at the right time. I think the Ferrari will feel like a £200k all the time.
Difficult choice.
I did look at McLarens again but Depreciation put me off. I was a 12c owner.
If The gt3 I looked at was miserable spec. No buckets or extended leather. The doors didn’t even have aluminium or carbon trim. I’m positive the gt3 will feel like a race car on the right road at the right time. I think the Ferrari will feel like a £200k all the time.
Difficult choice.
I did look at McLarens again but Depreciation put me off. I was a 12c owner.
If it was 991.2 gt3 v 599, I would probably go for Porsche,as it would be much newer ,but otherwise 599.
They have proven to be reliable and will always be a sense of car.
I struggle to get over the 991.1 engine issues,even with 10 year engine warranty .
As I assume you are in the UK, keep in mind the 599 is quite a big car (esp width)
I personally think nothing beats a Ferrari V12 - feels special every time
If track work is on the cards, then the GT3 is probably the better option - personally I would go for a manual one though (997 not 991) - is a 997.1 RS in budget - that would probably feel special most of the time
I personally think nothing beats a Ferrari V12 - feels special every time
If track work is on the cards, then the GT3 is probably the better option - personally I would go for a manual one though (997 not 991) - is a 997.1 RS in budget - that would probably feel special most of the time
I think they are two completely different cars. I say that because the GT3 was honed for the track, so it will be nimble and on its toes on a spirited run. The trade-off will be that it will be boomy/droney and less compliant on a motorway schlep.
The 599 is a big, heavy car. The brakes take a bit of heating up to get the best from them. Don't get me wrong, she can hike up her skirt and shift and backroads are fun .. but a GT3 would show it a clean pair of heels on the twisties. The 599 is a lovely place to be and gets admiring glances left, right and centre. The GT3 would need to be in a bright colour to draw the same reaction.
Great choice to have!
The 599 is a big, heavy car. The brakes take a bit of heating up to get the best from them. Don't get me wrong, she can hike up her skirt and shift and backroads are fun .. but a GT3 would show it a clean pair of heels on the twisties. The 599 is a lovely place to be and gets admiring glances left, right and centre. The GT3 would need to be in a bright colour to draw the same reaction.
Great choice to have!
Just and update. I bought the 599. First impressions are the gearbox is nowhere near as bad as reviews make out and it does not feel big. The noise is great but Astons still sound better. The Ferrari 599 feels very agile, light steering and super sharp throttle. The Ferrari also oozes theatre and feel good factor.
Jumpingjackflash said:
Just and update. I bought the 599. First impressions are the gearbox is nowhere near as bad as reviews make out and it does not feel big. The noise is great but Astons still sound better. The Ferrari 599 feels very agile, light steering and super sharp throttle. The Ferrari also oozes theatre and feel good factor.
Good choice, as great as a GT3 is it doesn't have the theatre of a V12 Ferrari.Jumpingjackflash said:
Just and update. I bought the 599. First impressions are the gearbox is nowhere near as bad as reviews make out and it does not feel big. The noise is great but Astons still sound better. The Ferrari 599 feels very agile, light steering and super sharp throttle. The Ferrari also oozes theatre and feel good factor.
Congratulations! Pics please.The gearbox was the biggest surprise to me, it's absolutely fine and nothing like a 'bad' paddle shift from, say a gen-1 Vanquish. If you just ease off on the throttle on upshifts, its pretty seamless.
Noise is a subjective thing and at low revs an Aston probably has it. Get the shift lights illuminated on the 599 and I'd argue there are few better noises. I have the HGTE exhausts though, not sure if that's a big change over standard.
I have the 599 and have driven the GT3. I would tend to agree with the other comments in so much as the GT3 is an uncompromising race car for the street. If your driving style is always 9 tenths then the car will reward that intensive time behind the wheel. If on the other hand you’re driving style is more road oriented with just a spot if fast driving occasionally the 599 will be a better buy.
Just moved on from 997.1 cab weekend car to 599 with just 20k miles on an 08 car. What a car! Awesome performance, brilliant handling, top build quality, amazing brakes, Essential to make full use of paddles, auto mode nowhere near as “emotional “. Will be keeping this for a long while and covering no more than 3000 mls per annum. Hopefully an appreciating asset in the medium term (maybe not in short term given Covid impact around the corner)
Silverstone grey with light grey interior with all essential spec
Subtle car - not in your face
Silverstone grey with light grey interior with all essential spec
Subtle car - not in your face
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