458 Italia - Gearbox Issue

458 Italia - Gearbox Issue

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5050

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284 posts

153 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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I have a 2012 458 Italia and have the gearbox warning light illuminated and gearshifts are jerky, slow and hesitant. Does anyone have any experience of this issue?

What is the general thoughts on if I should use a main dealer or independent? Could anyone recommend a good independent in the south east / essex area?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance!

PrancingHorses

2,714 posts

214 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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No warranty? Ouch!

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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PrancingHorses said:
No warranty? Ouch!
No warranty but then at 3.5k pa for the past 4 years I in theory have 14k to put towards any repairs.

Fingers crossed its something simple but my gut is telling me otherwise!

Felonious

392 posts

181 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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5050 said:
I have a 2012 458 Italia and have the gearbox warning light illuminated and gearshifts are jerky, slow and hesitant. Does anyone have any experience of this issue?

What is the general thoughts on if I should use a main dealer or independent? Could anyone recommend a good independent in the south east / essex area?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance!
Try AV Engineering (Ashford, Kent) or Grimaldi Engineering (Halstead, Essex).

ANOpax

922 posts

173 months

Wednesday 13th May 2020
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5050 said:
I have a 2012 458 Italia and have the gearbox warning light illuminated and gearshifts are jerky, slow and hesitant. Does anyone have any experience of this issue?

What is the general thoughts on if I should use a main dealer or independent? Could anyone recommend a good independent in the south east / essex area?

Any help would be appreciated, thank you in advance!
No personal experience of this issue but it sounds like your speed sensor is shot. It’s a known problem on the early Ferrari DCT boxes (up to around 2012/13).

The cable ties which keep the internal wiring become brittle in the heat of the gearbox and start to chafe the wires. Once the insulation is chafed through yoi start to get sensor errors.

The solution is a new sensor which costs peanuts. The labour to fit the sensor runs to about £7k as the gearbox has to be taken apart and it has to be done by Ferrari or Getrag. The sensor was designed to last the life of the gearbox and as a result, no thought was given to easy replacement. AFAIK, no independents are trained to rebuild the DCT gearboxes.

MingtheMerciless

466 posts

216 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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Had to have mine shipped to Maranello to rebuild. Thankfully under warranty.

likesachange

2,636 posts

201 months

Thursday 14th May 2020
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MingtheMerciless said:
Had to have mine shipped to Maranello to rebuild. Thankfully under warranty.
Wow the quarter really needs some filler and paintwork... silly

I thought only Mclaren broke down??

Hope the bill isn't too painful for you!

Roof down

301 posts

133 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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Felonious said:
Try AV Engineering (Ashford, Kent) or Grimaldi Engineering (Halstead, Essex).
If anyone can do it, its Ed Blasi at AV Engineering, it would be interesting to know how you get on, as I really think this is going to be one of those issues thats going to become more common.
Anyway good luck wish you well, Mike

Adz man

344 posts

166 months

Friday 15th May 2020
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I’m a big fan of Ed, Harvey and Aldous at AV in Kent. Videos of work and honesty is what you get.

Edited by Adz man on Friday 15th May 13:02

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Tuesday 19th May 2020
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Thank you all for the advice and recommendations. I will update the thread once i know more

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Update:

Gearbox oil seal is leaking causing a loss of pressure, gearbox rebuild required 6.5k.

I guess it could have been worse!

Roof down

301 posts

133 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Who’s doing this for you out of interest

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Thursday 11th June 2020
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Lancaster Ferrari Colchester

f1ten

2,162 posts

160 months

Saturday 13th June 2020
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Sounds like a good result given what I saw with an california gearbox and the bill!

ANOpax

922 posts

173 months

Sunday 14th June 2020
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f1ten said:
Sounds like a good result given what I saw with an california gearbox and the bill!
I’d be interested in learning how old that bill was. There was a time when any gearbox problem (which could have been fixed with a rebuild) was remedied by a total gearbox replacement (c30k IIRC). Ferrari then got Getrag to rebuild the boxes (still high teens money) but have now trained their own technicians to rebuild the boxes for a much more reasonable sum. The 6.5k quoted above is in line with what has been reported in the US and Europe for an official Ferrari rebuild.

If your experience is recent, please share what was done and how much it cost!

Durzel

12,459 posts

175 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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5050 said:
Update:

Gearbox oil seal is leaking causing a loss of pressure, gearbox rebuild required 6.5k.

I guess it could have been worse!
If it's any consolation I'm not sure this would have been covered under the Power Warranty anyway, which explicitly excludes oil leaks.

(And this just shows the knock on effect of said leaks)

Roof down

301 posts

133 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Out of sheer curiosity, is yours a gold car, I saw one on the A47 near Norwich a couple of weeks back that was struggling, really felt for the driver, its a horrible feeling when these cars go amiss.
Hope you get sorted anyway.
Mike

VonSenger

2,465 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Roof down said:
Out of sheer curiosity, is yours a gold car, I saw one on the A47 near Norwich a couple of weeks back that was struggling, really felt for the driver, its a horrible feeling when these cars go amiss.
Hope you get sorted anyway.
Mike
The horror...... being stuck in the side of the road in a gold Ferrari. Shoot me.

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Roof down said:
Out of sheer curiosity, is yours a gold car, I saw one on the A47 near Norwich a couple of weeks back that was struggling, really felt for the driver, its a horrible feeling when these cars go amiss.
Hope you get sorted anyway.
Mike
Thanks Mike. No that wasn’t me mine is black, I don’t enjoy being seen in a Ferrari as it is let alone making it worse by having a gold one! luckily I was close to home when it started misbehaving.

5050

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284 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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Durzel said:
If it's any consolation I'm not sure this would have been covered under the Power Warranty anyway, which explicitly excludes oil leaks.

(And this just shows the knock on effect of said leaks)
This is why I chose to run without a warranty, The only other issue I’ve had was a replacement shock that cost 2k which I believe also wouldn’t have been covered by the Power Warranty.

If I’d taken the warranty cover for the last 4 years that would have cost circa 15k and then the gearbox and shock repairs wouldn’t have been covered.

It makes the Mclaren warranties look good value considering as far as I am aware they are bumper to bumper cover.