Driving with false number plates

[AtlantisWeb]

Probably not the crime of the century, but how do so many owners of supercars seem to get away with driving around with made up private plates on their cars?
A friend of mine says that there is a well known guy in the South of England with a popular Instagram account, who drives around daily with made up plates on his Lambos & Ferraris which don't even appear on the DVLA computer.
On a recent trip to London, I saw a McLaren 720S with the plate MAC 720. Nice I thought, but it is not on the DVLA computer.
I can see them maybe getting a slap on the wrists once or even twice, by the Feds, but surely they must get pissed off continually seeing these cars popping up on their in car computers as not on DVLA record.
Apparently, it is only a fine, if prosecuted, and no penalty points, so I guess if you drive a £250k supercar, a paltry fine is as harmless as a Gnat bite!

[custardtart86]

AtlantisWeb said:

Apparently, it is only a fine, if prosecuted, and no penalty points, so I guess if you drive a £250k supercar, a paltry fine is as harmless as a Gnat bite!

If what you say is true, then you have answered your own question.

[JapanRed]

£1000 fine according to DVLA. Peanuts if you’ve a true supercar.

[murphyaj]

JapanRed said:

£1000 fine according to DVLA. Peanuts if you’ve a true supercar.

Also a damn site cheaper than buying a top-end private plate, even if you are fined a few times a year.

[Cliftonite]

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With a bit of effort, perhaps CPS could put together a convincing case for PCOJ?

After the first conviction of 6 months inside (perhaps 3 months if an MP) the practice may be reduced?

[CRA1G]

I think it's more doctored than outright false. I have encountered this a few times over the years with CRA 1C and GRA 1G.....

[Turbo cab]

I think it's a more of an exploited loop hole but happy to be proved wrong.

Make up a plate that hasn't been released, insure it with your insurer as registered on the car, quick check will show it's not showing up yet as on car so they will request for you to give these details manually - check said plate on the MID an hour later and it will show as insured to the corresponding car details you have given - if questioned by plod "if" you get a tug as mid will show insured and on correct car "sorry officer, just transferred it and must be an issue with DVLA".

Pretty sure that's how they get away with it.

[Superleg48]

Turbo cab said:

I think it's a more of an exploited loop hole but happy to be proved wrong.

Make up a plate that hasn't been released, insure it with your insurer as registered on the car, quick check will show it's not showing up yet as on car so they will request for you to give these details manually - check said plate on the MID an hour later and it will show as insured to the corresponding car details you have given - if questioned by plod "if" you get a tug as mid will show insured and on correct car "sorry officer, just transferred it and must be an issue with DVLA".

Pretty sure that's how they get away with it.

Would this not void your insurance if they found out you had provided a fictitious VRN? I am pretty sure Insurers would not take too kindly to that practise.

[Turbo cab]

Superleg48 said:

Turbo cab said:

I think it's a more of an exploited loop hole but happy to be proved wrong.

Make up a plate that hasn't been released, insure it with your insurer as registered on the car, quick check will show it's not showing up yet as on car so they will request for you to give these details manually - check said plate on the MID an hour later and it will show as insured to the corresponding car details you have given - if questioned by plod "if" you get a tug as mid will show insured and on correct car "sorry officer, just transferred it and must be an issue with DVLA".

Pretty sure that's how they get away with it.

Would this not void your insurance if they found out you had provided a fictitious VRN? I am pretty sure Insurers would not take too kindly to that practise.

Possibly, but who knows - it's not something I'm prepared to try to find out.

Edited by Turbo cab on Tuesday 2nd April 21:32

[Roof down]

I would imagine the consequences of falsifying the vehicles true registration and owners details would also incur a perverting the course of justice and obstructing an officer in their duties.
It’s not something I would do, it’s plain daft.

[Cheib]

Turbo cab said:

Superleg48 said:

Turbo cab said:

I think it's a more of an exploited loop hole but happy to be proved wrong.

Make up a plate that hasn't been released, insure it with your insurer as registered on the car, quick check will show it's not showing up yet as on car so they will request for you to give these details manually - check said plate on the MID an hour later and it will show as insured to the corresponding car details you have given - if questioned by plod "if" you get a tug as mid will show insured and on correct car "sorry officer, just transferred it and must be an issue with DVLA".

Pretty sure that's how they get away with it.

Would this not void your insurance if they found out you had provided a fictitious VRN? I am pretty sure Insurers would not take too kindly to that practise.

Possibly, but who knows - it's not something I'm prepared to try to find out.

Edited by Turbo cab on Tuesday 2nd April 21:32

I doubt they go anywhere near the insurance company. I imagine as far as the insurance company is concerned its on the original plate ?

It really is just fking daft and totally obnoxious behaviour. I’d rather the police were spending their time on other things.

[WCZ]

if it's shown as insured then the police don't care, they're very stretched at the moment anyway

[traxx]

What happened to that Ferrari that crashed with the plate that was registered to a Bugatti?
Did the police/DVLA ever take it to court?

[Turbo cab]

Cheib said:

Turbo cab said:

Superleg48 said:

Turbo cab said:

I think it's a more of an exploited loop hole but happy to be proved wrong.

Make up a plate that hasn't been released, insure it with your insurer as registered on the car, quick check will show it's not showing up yet as on car so they will request for you to give these details manually - check said plate on the MID an hour later and it will show as insured to the corresponding car details you have given - if questioned by plod "if" you get a tug as mid will show insured and on correct car "sorry officer, just transferred it and must be an issue with DVLA".

Pretty sure that's how they get away with it.

Would this not void your insurance if they found out you had provided a fictitious VRN? I am pretty sure Insurers would not take too kindly to that practise.

Possibly, but who knows - it's not something I'm prepared to try to find out.

Edited by Turbo cab on Tuesday 2nd April 21:32

I doubt they go anywhere near the insurance company. I imagine as far as the insurance company is concerned its on the original plate ?

Re-read what I've wrote as the insurer take what details you have given.

I believe plod now rely on the MID quite heavily. I just found this out as got an NIP through for a car I was the sole insurer of but was actually registered to someone else, they didn't even bother sending to the registered keeper of the car just me as the insured.

[CRA1G]

traxx said:

What happened to that Ferrari that crashed with the plate that was registered to a Bugatti?
Did the police/DVLA ever take it to court?

That will be Mr Carl Hartley who apparently ran off after the incident because he felt threatened...

I believe the following morning farther Tom instructed infamus Mr Loophole Nick Freeman to defend him...

[br d]

CRA1G said:

That will be Mr Carl Hartley who apparently ran off after the incident because he felt threatened...

So, pissed then?

CRA1G said:

I believe the following morning farther Tom instructed infamus Mr Loophole Nick Freeman to defend him...

What was the outcome?

[AtlantisWeb]

Saw 834UTY on a Ferrari & 811L on an Aventador recently. Neither of them are registered on either DVLA or ASKMID. How do they get away with it?