Automatic speed limits planned for all new cars
Discussion
In the news today
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/automatic-...
Will be interesting to see if that has any effect on anything that breaks 70mph
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/automatic-...
Will be interesting to see if that has any effect on anything that breaks 70mph
Well, I think it is mixed news really. I will be interested to see how the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren etc are going to market their 200+mph Supercars complete with built in speed limiters.
For current owners of supercars I think it is probably good news in terms of retained value and attractiveness to future buyers. I think it is a vanishingly small probability of retrospective application due to cost, complexity and the likely resistance to it happening.
Even more reason to get out there and enjoy our cars. Yesterday afternoon was lovely here in North Yorkshire and pleased to say that current score is Lambo 1 - Pheasants 0, though it was a close run thing...
For current owners of supercars I think it is probably good news in terms of retained value and attractiveness to future buyers. I think it is a vanishingly small probability of retrospective application due to cost, complexity and the likely resistance to it happening.
Even more reason to get out there and enjoy our cars. Yesterday afternoon was lovely here in North Yorkshire and pleased to say that current score is Lambo 1 - Pheasants 0, though it was a close run thing...
sardis said:
Well, I think it is mixed news really. I will be interested to see how the likes of Lamborghini, Ferrari, McLaren etc are going to market their 200+mph Supercars complete with built in speed limiters.
For current owners of supercars I think it is probably good news in terms of retained value and attractiveness to future buyers. I think it is a vanishingly small probability of retrospective application due to cost, complexity and the likely resistance to it happening.
Even more reason to get out there and enjoy our cars. Yesterday afternoon was lovely here in North Yorkshire and pleased to say that current score is Lambo 1 - Pheasants 0, though it was a close run thing...
Think this is wishful thinking.For current owners of supercars I think it is probably good news in terms of retained value and attractiveness to future buyers. I think it is a vanishingly small probability of retrospective application due to cost, complexity and the likely resistance to it happening.
Even more reason to get out there and enjoy our cars. Yesterday afternoon was lovely here in North Yorkshire and pleased to say that current score is Lambo 1 - Pheasants 0, though it was a close run thing...
It’s not just speed limits.
I think the EU aims may be unattainable as far as driver aids and safety are concerned I think it’s driven by the major European car manufacturers to sell more cars and technology.
How you can program a road vehicle to behave in any given potential accident is nonsense, given things like road condition, conditions of vehicle tyres,brakes etc.
Hurri360 said:
Think this is wishful thinking.
It’s not just speed limits.
I think the EU aims may be unattainable as far as driver aids and safety are concerned I think it’s driven by the major European car manufacturers to sell more cars and technology.
How you can program a road vehicle to behave in any given potential accident is nonsense, given things like road condition, conditions of vehicle tyres,brakes etc.
Lowest common denominator - reduce speed until all risks are removed. We have a version of that now - cars, roads etc are better than they were 30 years ago, but speedlimits have not been raised. We cater for the weakest link in our society and bring everything down to that level,,,It’s not just speed limits.
I think the EU aims may be unattainable as far as driver aids and safety are concerned I think it’s driven by the major European car manufacturers to sell more cars and technology.
How you can program a road vehicle to behave in any given potential accident is nonsense, given things like road condition, conditions of vehicle tyres,brakes etc.
I'd wager that, while speed can be a factor in an incident occurring, it's more the skills (lack thereof), he patience (lack thereof) and the general attitude (poor) of the driver(s) involved that are the biggest contributing factor to incidents.
I drive every day on the M25, and naturally encounter a lo of incidents between vehicles. I don't understand how these incidents happen aside from one or more of the drivers wasn't paying enough attention and taking too much of a chance. I mean, you just drive in a broadly straight line. Speed here surely isn't a great factor but more the f
k-wittedness of the people causing the incidents.
I can understand someone bombing along a B-road, getting to a set of twisty corners and running out of talent when they realised maybe they braked a little too late for their speed and don't quite know how to handle the turn now they are going 5 mph beyond their comfort zone - they were just going to fast. But that's a potentially NSL road where you might be trying to navigate a 20 mph corner; a speed limiter wont help you out there!
No, it's silly. I dont want to be restricted to 70 mph when I have someone tailgating me, I want to boot it, get some distance between me and them and then move aside safely for them to go past and endanger someone elses life.
The upside of this is that my 1.8 civic auto could be the fastest car on the road in 50 years time
Does ruin the supercar ethos though. "My McLaren does 70 mph!" "So does my mondeo, and I can carry my family around and take stuff to the dump". Who's the winner there?
I drive every day on the M25, and naturally encounter a lo of incidents between vehicles. I don't understand how these incidents happen aside from one or more of the drivers wasn't paying enough attention and taking too much of a chance. I mean, you just drive in a broadly straight line. Speed here surely isn't a great factor but more the f
k-wittedness of the people causing the incidents. I can understand someone bombing along a B-road, getting to a set of twisty corners and running out of talent when they realised maybe they braked a little too late for their speed and don't quite know how to handle the turn now they are going 5 mph beyond their comfort zone - they were just going to fast. But that's a potentially NSL road where you might be trying to navigate a 20 mph corner; a speed limiter wont help you out there!
No, it's silly. I dont want to be restricted to 70 mph when I have someone tailgating me, I want to boot it, get some distance between me and them and then move aside safely for them to go past and endanger someone elses life.
The upside of this is that my 1.8 civic auto could be the fastest car on the road in 50 years time
Does ruin the supercar ethos though. "My McLaren does 70 mph!" "So does my mondeo, and I can carry my family around and take stuff to the dump". Who's the winner there?
Total disaster of an idea .
Abdicates driver responsibility to some new fangled hard and software which will add cost , complexity and bother , while often failing to work no doubt .
While I cant believe it , I suppose I really knew that it was coming , but hoped that it would only come in long after I had stopped driving .
Driving is soon going to be reduced to an act of mere transportation --- we better enjoy what we still can , before the dictators fully trample us underfoot
Abdicates driver responsibility to some new fangled hard and software which will add cost , complexity and bother , while often failing to work no doubt .
While I cant believe it , I suppose I really knew that it was coming , but hoped that it would only come in long after I had stopped driving .
Driving is soon going to be reduced to an act of mere transportation --- we better enjoy what we still can , before the dictators fully trample us underfoot
I predict a boom in business for firms able to disable these speed limiters. Actually, watching reports of this on breakfast news it might not be quite as bad as we initially thought and in some cases may simply be a system that warns you that you are exceeding the speed limit but which doesn't intervene. A loud stereo (or exhaust) could deal with that.
sparta6 said:
Don't worry, they will also ban sexual intercourse with hot women by 2030.
My wife banned that 25 years ago. Err, other than with her of course, she only banned that 5 years ago.If the majority of cars have speed limiters does that mean speed cameras will be obsolete? If so, I'll be the guy blasting round in classics. Yay. ;-)
And lastly, some of my cars have speed limiters that you have to activate (much like cruise) and my Merc GL has auto braking. The Auto braking is absolutely, unequivocally, totally and very convincingly.....s
te. Doesn't work at all. The Auto parking is as bad too.Gassing Station | Supercar General | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff