is the F type a supercar?
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550 bhp in 1.5 tonnes, looks good . not dissimilar to a 458 or a 991 in bhp/tonne. or are they not supercars either. or is it that the jag is british.
Got to wondering about the pecking order of supercars. I had been planning on buying myself a 430 but I cant see a decent one much below 100k and I dont want to spend that much. Yet a V8 aston is half that cost and newer to boot, as is a porker. So I find myself wondering which way to go and on looks alone, the Jag has to be in there.
Got to wondering about the pecking order of supercars. I had been planning on buying myself a 430 but I cant see a decent one much below 100k and I dont want to spend that much. Yet a V8 aston is half that cost and newer to boot, as is a porker. So I find myself wondering which way to go and on looks alone, the Jag has to be in there.
bordseye said:
Got to wondering about the pecking order of supercars. I had been planning on buying myself a 430 but I cant see a decent one...<etc>
So you fancy an F-Type but aren't sure because people don't consider it a "supercar"? Anyway, if you look at the list of cars people are expecting to be admitted to the grid at Goodwood's Breakfast Club tomorrow it seems like anything with an Aston, Porsche, Ferrari badge qualifies so I don't see why not a Jag
bordseye said:
550 bhp in 1.5 tonnes, looks good . not dissimilar to a 458 or a 991 in bhp/tonne. or are they not supercars either. or is it that the jag is british.
Got to wondering about the pecking order of supercars. I had been planning on buying myself a 430 but I cant see a decent one much below 100k and I dont want to spend that much. Yet a V8 aston is half that cost and newer to boot, as is a porker. So I find myself wondering which way to go and on looks alone, the Jag has to be in there.
As said, a supercar is much, much more than just a power figure. It's an idea as much as anything. Heritage plays a large part, but isn't essential (see Pagani, Koenigsegg et al.). As shallow as it sounds, name means a lot, unless the car is exceptional (Lexus LFA etc.). Being merely fast and powerful means nothing - few would consider the Nissan GTR a supercar. Got to wondering about the pecking order of supercars. I had been planning on buying myself a 430 but I cant see a decent one much below 100k and I dont want to spend that much. Yet a V8 aston is half that cost and newer to boot, as is a porker. So I find myself wondering which way to go and on looks alone, the Jag has to be in there.
Don't be so silly. Being British has nothing to do with it - Mclaren?
For the record, I've used 'supercar' loosely; I can't stand the word 'Hypercar'
Without getting into a Jaguar vs Aston Martin argument remember that Swallow Sidecars were re-bodying Austins when Aston were finishing first in class and 5th overall at Le Mans and winning races like the Ulster TT. Jaguar had a fantastic period winning Le Mans in the 1950s but when talking about heritage understand that the Aston-Martin story goes back to 1913, it didn't start with the DB4. Anyway back to genuine 'supercars', how about an Aston Martin One-77?
bordseye said:
Heritage? But Jag has far more heritage than Lambo for example. Or Lexus . And arguably has a better heritage than Aston.
Oh give over. You've picked up on one of the aspects I identified. I love Jaguar, seriously, and their success is brilliant in my opinion. However, consider the two Marques alongside each other - which has produced the most 'supercars'? Seriously, and consider your argument:
Miura
Countach
Diablo
Murcielago
Aventador
...and that is just their V12 flagship models.
What do Jaguar have to reply to those models...?
Chebble said:
Oh give over. You've picked up on one of the aspects I identified. I love Jaguar, seriously, and their success is brilliant in my opinion. However, consider the two Marques alongside each other - which has produced the most 'supercars'?
Seriously, and consider your argument:
Miura
Countach
Diablo
Murcielago
Aventador
...and that is just their V12 flagship models.
What do Jaguar have to reply to those models...?
Not the best comparison.But for me personally I would have the Jag everyday of the week and save myself enough to buy another one.Seriously, and consider your argument:
Miura
Countach
Diablo
Murcielago
Aventador
...and that is just their V12 flagship models.
What do Jaguar have to reply to those models...?
YOu can use the Jag everyday how many on your list can be taken to Tesco's for the weekly shop.
I love Lambo's if nothing else because they are not Ferrari but we shouldnt really be comparing a mass production vehicle with a bespoke one.
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