Anybody on here own a BAC Mono

[AA121]

Sorry mods if this is the wrong place to post this but I think I recall at least one person on this forum who had bought/ordered a Mono. Would like to know some "real life" experiences of ownership if possible?!?

[Streetrod]

LFB ordered one then cancelled if I remember rightly, I don't know of anyone else who has ordered on. If I had the spare cash and fitted one, (have yet to try) I would have an order in

[porkyrob]

RS Academy have bought a couple I think www.rs-academy.co.uk/

[Rob RS]

Hi - Yes, I bought the first 2 production cars and have been running them for a few months. Chris Harris drove our red car at a wet Rockingham a couple of months back you may recall reading/viewing on here...

The cars are fantastic to drive and get a lot of attention wherever they go. We've just come back form the Gran Tursimo Nuburgring Evo event where we were filming with Drift Innovation (HD Camera manufacturer) for the launch of their latest product- i'll post the edited video up here when its done.

The cars ran well and are great around the Nordschliefe, mainly due to the compliant ride and handling. Its not an aero car at all, but has masses of mechanical grip and gives so much confidence to really push on. Th main thing is the feeling that its just so different from any of the "competition" that a lot of people naturally pigeonhole it with. Its really in a different league in terms of the quality of engineering and driving experience.

For those of you not already aware, RS Academy rents both cars out - currently they are based at the 'Ring /Spa for the next few weeks, then we'll have them back to GPR, Silverstone where we run them from in the UK. Both cars have just gone through the SVA test and will be available for road hire too once the paperwork is done.

Don't think I'm supposed to use this place to personally plug what we do (although there is link on the Chris Harris article... http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI... ), but if anyone wants to come and drive the cars to see for themselves, you are more them welcome!

Here's some iphone pics from last week at the 'Ring... on track actions shots and the film from this trip will be available to view soon at www.rs-academy.co.uk

Cheers

Rob

[FUBAR]

I'll have the red one for a long weekend as long as it comes with that mechanic.

[ZOLLAR]

FUBAR said:

I'll have the red one for a long weekend as long as it comes with that mechanic.

The one on the left or the right?

[AA121]

[quote=Rob RS]Hi - Yes, I bought the first 2 production cars and have been running them for a few months. Chris Harris drove our red car at a wet Rockingham a couple of months back you may recall reading/viewing on here...

The cars are fantastic to drive and get a lot of attention wherever they go. We've just come back form the Gran Tursimo Nuburgring Evo event where we were filming with Drift Innovation (HD Camera manufacturer) for the launch of their latest product- i'll post the edited video up here when its done.

The cars ran well and are great around the Nordschliefe, mainly due to the compliant ride and handling. Its not an aero car at all, but has masses of mechanical grip and gives so much confidence to really push on. Th main thing is the feeling that its just so different from any of the "competition" that a lot of people naturally pigeonhole it with. Its really in a different league in terms of the quality of engineering and driving experience.

For those of you not already aware, RS Academy rents both cars out - currently they are based at the 'Ring /Spa for the next few weeks, then we'll have them back to GPR, Silverstone where we run them from in the UK. Both cars have just gone through the SVA test and will be available for road hire too once the paperwork is done.

Don't think I'm supposed to use this place to personally plug what we do (although there is link on the Chris Harris article... http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI... ), but if anyone wants to come and drive the cars to see for themselves, you are more them welcome!

Here's some iphone pics from last week at the 'Ring... on track actions shots and the film from this trip will be available to view soon at www.rs-academy.co.uk

Cheers

Rob


Brilliant thanks Rob. I was kind of hoping that you would reply after trying without success to call you earlier today. I'm close to securing a car and it's a bit of a leap of faith I suppose so it's good to hear positive things from an "owner" rather than just reading press! It's probably too early days to ask you about any "wear and tear" issues you might have had but feel free to PM me with any information that you think could be relevant.
Thanks again for the reply,
Tim

[SuperVetturaJ]

Thanks for your input Rob - as a user at the more extreme end of the scale it is always good to hear your feedback! We will have to catch up again soon.

I work for SuperVettura - the UK dealer for the BAC Mono. The car is very unusual in as much as it does not fit into any of the traditional car categories. Yes, it is a great track car but the technology and quality of finish sets a new benchmark for the industry. The finish is sublime and far superior to traditional track cars that I have come across. There was an emphasis throughout the design of the car that it must be as good as it possibly can be on the road and as good as it possibly can be on the track.

We recently used the Mono in the exact scenario that it was designed for. Starting in Virginia Water we met with a few other supercar owners and made our way into London for a convoy, we then came out of London headed up the M40 to Silverstone where the Mono was put out on track. It is unusual for a car that delivers so much on a track to be this good on the road. London is notoriously hard on supercars but the Mono did not miss a beat. It looks like it has escaped a race track but it remarkably simple to get to grips with and allows drivers of all abilities to enjoy driving - which is what this car is all about.

The Mono is incredibly light which offers up some major advantages in terms of wear and tear. The factory car which has been put through its paces by some fairly serious drivers and covered thousands of miles on the road and some very hard track miles is still on the same discs and pads. A 540kg car such as the Mono carries a lot less momentum than a heavier car and therefore is far easier to stop. This same theory carries on to the tyres. You can spec your car with racing pads and softer tyres which will wear more quickly but in turn stopping distances are reduced and cornering speeds are increased. For a car of this performance the running costs are very acceptable.

If you would like any more information on the Mono please visit our website:
http://www.supervettura.com/bac-mono-index.html

Or contact me on:
[e-mail]
07703542809

Here is a picture of our visit into London.



There will be a video to follow...

I hope this is useful information for anyone thinking about Mono ownership!

James

[0000]

Hmmn. I saw one of these on thursday, didn't know what it was at the time but certainly turned a few heads.

[El Capitano]

Hello James.....

Thought you might spot this thread! - when can you arrange my test drive?!

:-)

[SuperVetturaJ]

Ollie! Soon... when are you in our area? I have some other things for you to feast your eyes on! Give me a call soon!

[Mosi]

A bunch of us did the Evo Triangle yesterday

This was The Lowry car park in the evening (we decided to get lashed up in Manchester afterwards)



We had a BAC with us (white one), but unfortunately it couldn't make it during the day as it had sheared some engine bolts. I had a good poke around it though, looked a well finished thing

[SonnyM]

Mosi said:

A bunch of us did the Evo Triangle yesterday

This was The Lowry car park in the evening (we decided to get lashed up in Manchester afterwards)



We had a BAC with us (white one), but unfortunately it couldn't make it during the day as it had sheared some engine bolts. I had a good poke around it though, looked a well finished thing

Wow an old skool Testarossa!

Would be interesting to see running and maintenance costs on a BAC - wonder if Evo will run one long term... It's a lot more desirable than a Caterfield IMO.

[Streetrod]

SonnyM said:

Mosi said:

A bunch of us did the Evo Triangle yesterday

This was The Lowry car park in the evening (we decided to get lashed up in Manchester afterwards)



We had a BAC with us (white one), but unfortunately it couldn't make it during the day as it had sheared some engine bolts. I had a good poke around it though, looked a well finished thing

Wow an old skool Testarossa!

Would be interesting to see running and maintenance costs on a BAC - wonder if Evo will run one long term... It's a lot more desirable than a Caterfield IMO.

Yeah but at £89k basic it’s also almost three times as much. But yes I also think they are very cool.

To the guys at Supervettura, could you please explain why the Mono was given a £15k price rise to its current level from the original retail price when you appeared to get nothing extra for your money, was this just profiteering on the back of various good magazine reviews??

[Mike 360]

Rob RS said:

The cars are fantastic to drive and get a lot of attention wherever they go. We've just come back form the Gran Tursimo Nuburgring Evo event where we were filming with Drift Innovation (HD Camera manufacturer) for the launch of their latest product- i'll post the edited video up here when its done.

Hey Rob,

I've made a video of your 2 BAC Mono's at the Ring. Great cars! It was my first time seeing the BAC Mono, was quite excited seeing one (well, two )



ETA

Please don't plug your own clips it's deemed as advertising and not allowed.

Edited by Big Al. on Sunday 23 September 14:03

[savyboy]

Streetrod said:

Yeah but at £89k basic it’s also almost three times as much. But yes I also think they are very cool.

To the guys at Supervettura, could you please explain why the Mono was given a £15k price rise to its current level from the original retail price when you appeared to get nothing extra for your money, was this just profiteering on the back of various good magazine reviews??

It's underpriced at £89k.

If one takes the time and makes the effort to add up all the bits/pieces/engineering time/design time/etc etc, the value proposition becomes quite clear. The price change was easily foreseen by any early prospect who understood what they were dealing with. Furthermore, early buyers had more risk of the unknown, the lower price served to help hedge the risk.

If you wanted introductory pricing, and missed it (as I did), then you have only yourself to blame.

Here is the beautiful thing about a free market- people can put their money where their mouth is. If someone thinks it's overpriced, then you have the freedom to develop and sell your own "correctly priced" version and reap the profits. To any business minded person this is all quite clear.

I've got one on order and am very excited to take delivery. The BAC folks need to be working nights and weekends to get the pipeline moving! :-)

Edited by savyboy on Sunday 23 September 14:27

[Streetrod]

savyboy said:

Streetrod said:

Yeah but at £89k basic it’s also almost three times as much. But yes I also think they are very cool.

To the guys at Supervettura, could you please explain why the Mono was given a £15k price rise to its current level from the original retail price when you appeared to get nothing extra for your money, was this just profiteering on the back of various good magazine reviews??

It's underpriced at £89k.

If one takes the time and makes the effort to add up all the bits/pieces/engineering time/design time/etc etc, the value proposition becomes quite clear. The price change was easily foreseen by any early prospect who understood what they were dealing with. Furthermore, early buyers had more risk of the unknown, the lower price served to help hedge the risk.

If you wanted introductory pricing, and missed it (as I did), then you have only yourself to blame.

Here is the beautiful thing about a free market- people can put their money where their mouth is. If someone thinks it's overpriced, then you have the freedom to develop and sell your own "correctly priced" version and reap the profits. To any business minded person this is all quite clear.

I've got one on order and am very excited to take delivery. The BAC folks need to be working nights and weekends to get the pipeline moving! :-)

Edited by savyboy on Sunday 23 September 14:27

So if it’s underpriced at £89k what would you prefer to pay for it £100k, £120????...

By the way at no point did I say it was underpriced, I was just asking for an explanation of the price hike, let’s not forget that a reasonably specced example is going to be coming in at about £95K.

As one of those "Business minded" people you spoke about I had a pretty good idea what BAC were up too with the price hike, but I did not want to make an assumption which is why asked the question.

So enjoy your new car when it arrives in good health, hopefully one day I can add one to my garage

[savyboy]

Streetrod said:

So enjoy your new car when it arrives in good health, hopefully one day I can add one to my garage

I'll look forward to sharing a track with you if it all works out It's going to be a small fraternity of enthusiast owners .

[SuperVetturaJ]

savyboy said:

Streetrod said:

Yeah but at £89k basic it’s also almost three times as much. But yes I also think they are very cool.

To the guys at Supervettura, could you please explain why the Mono was given a £15k price rise to its current level from the original retail price when you appeared to get nothing extra for your money, was this just profiteering on the back of various good magazine reviews??

It's underpriced at £89k.

If one takes the time and makes the effort to add up all the bits/pieces/engineering time/design time/etc etc, the value proposition becomes quite clear. The price change was easily foreseen by any early prospect who understood what they were dealing with. Furthermore, early buyers had more risk of the unknown, the lower price served to help hedge the risk.

If you wanted introductory pricing, and missed it (as I did), then you have only yourself to blame.

Here is the beautiful thing about a free market- people can put their money where their mouth is. If someone thinks it's overpriced, then you have the freedom to develop and sell your own "correctly priced" version and reap the profits. To any business minded person this is all quite clear.

I've got one on order and am very excited to take delivery. The BAC folks need to be working nights and weekends to get the pipeline moving! :-)

Edited by savyboy on Sunday 23 September 14:27

This is correct. Since the first prototype car there have been significant changes to some of the cars components. As production has increased BAC have needed to employ more people to carry the production forwards. The increased time and cost of production made the price increase essential. Due to the bespoke nature of the Mono's production individual parts become very expensive compared to a mass produced vehicle. When I have shown people the Mono through various stages of production they begin to realise the value in the car.

The price increase was not a profiteering exercise but necessary to cover the extra costs and maintain the quality of components.

James

[Streetrod]

SuperVetturaJ said:

savyboy said:

Streetrod said:

Yeah but at £89k basic it’s also almost three times as much. But yes I also think they are very cool.

To the guys at Supervettura, could you please explain why the Mono was given a £15k price rise to its current level from the original retail price when you appeared to get nothing extra for your money, was this just profiteering on the back of various good magazine reviews??

It's underpriced at £89k.

If one takes the time and makes the effort to add up all the bits/pieces/engineering time/design time/etc etc, the value proposition becomes quite clear. The price change was easily foreseen by any early prospect who understood what they were dealing with. Furthermore, early buyers had more risk of the unknown, the lower price served to help hedge the risk.

If you wanted introductory pricing, and missed it (as I did), then you have only yourself to blame.

Here is the beautiful thing about a free market- people can put their money where their mouth is. If someone thinks it's overpriced, then you have the freedom to develop and sell your own "correctly priced" version and reap the profits. To any business minded person this is all quite clear.

I've got one on order and am very excited to take delivery. The BAC folks need to be working nights and weekends to get the pipeline moving! :-)

Edited by savyboy on Sunday 23 September 14:27

This is correct. Since the first prototype car there have been significant changes to some of the cars components. As production has increased BAC have needed to employ more people to carry the production forwards. The increased time and cost of production made the price increase essential. Due to the bespoke nature of the Mono's production individual parts become very expensive compared to a mass produced vehicle. When I have shown people the Mono through various stages of production they begin to realise the value in the car.

The price increase was not a profiteering exercise but necessary to cover the extra costs and maintain the quality of components.

James

Thanks for the answer James, that's all I wanted to know, but still, that was a large percentage increase on the original price. Can I ask what are the delivery times on these now?