Done by a scooby

[Martin Hunt]

Last night I got done by a scooby, I have looked at the stats for mine(Speed 6) and His (not sure) but he pulled away from me from the lights, and he should not have been able too

Now I am not a trained racing driver but was changing up at 6000 revs, should I have gone to the limit and would this have given me the grunt to get past him?

Your thoughts appreciated(I know it is funny though).

>>> Edited by Martin Hunt on Sunday 24th February 07:47

[flasher]

Well, my old Cerb was a V8 so maybe that makes a difference? But the numpty up the road from me was soundly thrashed when he tried to race me!! Trouble is the bugger beat me next time out because my engine was cold and I had just started her up!!! Drove to the petrol station to fill up and a bloke in van says to me "why didn't you thrash that t*sser in the Subaru"

I told him I was out of fuel

Seriously though you should slaughter an Impreza in a straight line, I can't beleive you lost
was it wet?

[Martin Hunt]

Thanks Flasher, no it was bone dry, straight line, about 500 yds between lights.

I think I am going to have to improve my driving skills!!!!!

[trefor]

If it was a short distance and he dumped the clutch his 4WD would have got away quicker than you - esp. if you were not as ready as he was. Given time you should have hauled him in and passed him though.

[Ston]

Do you mean an Impreza or a Supra... if its a supra they can have mods for over 600 bhp done.

If it was an Impreza, I eat those for lunch in my Chimaera

[ninja_eli]

500 yards?! Thats around quarter of a mile, 4wd shouldn't make that much difference here. I heard that the 2 door impreza are supposed to be 0-60 region of around 5 seconds but in my Supra I still beat them. Maybe there's something wrong with your Cerb? Coz I raced a Cerb on straights and it felt like my handbrake was still up, only other thing I saw as quick on the road was a 911Turbo and a Lotus Esprit V8, oh and my mates R6!!

[johnny boy]

Depends on what the scooby is..

A mate of mine has a P1 which has about 280BHP and is pretty much like for like with my Esprit up to 100mph - after that, the story is different!

Another mate of mine has an STi modified to hell - about 370BHP if I recall and he has been timed (officially) at 0-60 3.72 secs, 0-100 9.91 secs


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[philshort]

You've got to have some respect for the Scoob, just like TVR's you do get a lot of performance for the £. Being Turbo's they can be modded relatively easily too. For the price of a Cerbera you could have a Scooby and then spend £15k on engine upgrades. That'd get a lot of horsepower.

Four seats as well! I always fancied one as a "support" vehicle, but they get nicked too easily.

[Martin Hunt]

It was an Impreza, No there is nothing wrong with the Cerb, had an engine rebuild 1500 miles ago and runs like a dream, almost purrs.

I am afraid it must be driver error, I am definitely going to have to have some lessons on how to drive the thing!!!!

It is a lot different to the Chim I had, a lot quicker, but the Chim was a V8 and easier to know how and when to change gear then the speed 6.

Next time I see a scooby do (subaru) I will give more!!!!!!

Thanks for all your replies, and if you see me in my cerby when in any fast car, don't bother to race me as I obviously will lose!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenV8S]

Are you sure you want to be dragging a 1500 mile old engine? None of my business but that doesn't seem much of a 'running in' period?

Cheers,
Peter Humphries (and a green V8S)

[Martin Hunt]

Green V8S, I know what you mean, but having 'run it in' then the 1000 mile service, then another 500 mile ish on top, going by the handbook this is ok.

If I am wrong and should be taking more care of the engine then please let me know.

The engine was completely warm, having had almost 1 hr of driving before this happened, and I am very careful with the warming up period, I will not drive above 2000 revs until the engine reaches 70, then 2500 revs until around 80, I then wait for the oil pressure to drop to around 50 before using any further of the rev range.

This is meant to be a sports car, which yes should be handled with care, but I cannot afford that much cotton wool.....

And we are living in the 21st century!

[cammy]

Currently running in my car (Cerbera Speed 6), did 3500rpm till service at 1100 miles, then every 200 miles increase the rpms by 500, thereby full throttle won't be until 2500 miles roughly. Spoke to mechanic who confirmed this was totally sensible since after all it is near-as-dammit a race engine. A little bit of patience may go a long way? Hope this helps.

[gazzab]

If you are racing any fast car and the other driver gets away slightly better than you then it is going to be impossible to make it up in such a short distance. I know many TVR owners who have had close run 'drag races' with cars like 330i BMWs, Golf VR6s, Scoobies, Porsches etc and been suprised how close the races are.

[gazzab]

Also - how do you manage to keep it below 2000 revs - I have a 4.5 and keep it to a max of 2500 ish for first 5 miles or so, then I go to 3k max for next 5 miles then go for it thereafter. Can see how (in a 4.5) you can drive anything but downhill and stayf below 2k revs.

[Martin Hunt]

Cammy,

Yes I know what you mean, but does that mean that F1 Drivers run their engines in 1st?

Gazzab,

I think you could be right, I also think I changed to 2nd too early, about 3000 revs, so he had a chance.

2000 revs in mine is 50mph in 5th, as I leave my house, I go past about 4 or 5 speed cameras in a 30 mph zone and 5 or so sets of traffic lights. So i never really need to get above that until I hit the A38 by which time the temp is at about 70, then 2500 revs 60-65 mph until the temp gets upto 80. then about another 20-25 miles before the oil is sufficiently warmed.

I know it sounds sad but it is a ritual I got into with my chim and seemed to work with that.

[Ston]

Martin, the reason why new engines need to be run in is that race engines have this done to them...

quote:
After the engine is assembled, it runs on the dynamometer (measures engine power output) for 30 minutes to break it in. The engine is then inspected. The filters are checked for excess metal shavings to make sure no abnormal wear is taking place.

If it passes this test, then it goes on the dynamometer for another two hours. During this test, the ignition timing is dialed in to maximize power and the engine is cycled through various speed and power ranges.

After this test, the engine is inspected thoroughly. The valve train is pulled and the camshaft and lifters are inspected. The insides of the cylinders are examined with borescopes (inspects the interior using mirrors). The cylinders are pressurized and the rate of leak down is measured to see how well the pistons and seals hold the pressure. All of the lines and hoses are checked.

Only after all of these tests and inspections are finished is the engine ready to go to the races. Insuring the reliability of the engine is critical -- almost any engine failure during a race eliminates any chances of winning.

Now if TVR only did this for every speed six engine we would be laughing :E

>> Edited by Ston on Sunday 24th February 23:05

[Hazy]

Martin, simple advice mate, hold on tight, bury the throttle, wait for the beep and the red light to flash, then change up. NOTHING will do you in the dry

[ap_smith]

Hmmm,

Having had a Griff 500 I know all about TVR pace. I now have a scooby, unmodded which would eaten alive by any TVR in a STRAIGHT line.

However, as it has been pointed out already, many scoobies and Jap machines are tuned to fcuk - even a modestly tuned Impreza Sti or P1 will start to give you trouble, and with 4 wheel drive it's easier to apply apply the power from the line without masses of wheelspin. Power means nothing if you can't get it to the tarmac.



>> Edited by ap_smith on Wednesday 27th February 15:02

[thom]

quote:
Now if TVR only did this for every speed six engine we would be laughing

"Money!...get back..."

[dougal]

As above, it's not that hard to get away quickly in a Scoob, I can do it every time without fail as long as it doesn't bog down, not that I do it that often, mechanical sympathy and all that, the Griff on the other hand is a wee bit harder, too much throttle and the wheels spin and a Morris Ital could pull away faster, too little and things like the Scooby are gone, get it right and you'll be smiling all the way to the next set of lights. At the end of the day I prefer my Griff to drive, the Scooby is fantastic in the wet and it lets you get away with the odd mistake and I (seeing as I'm no Schuey) could probably drive it faster down a country lane, but the same country lane in the Griff is ten times the fun. You can also get more beer in the back of the Scooby.