Which to Buy

Which to Buy

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Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th December 2001
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I have a budget of about £25K and have seen 2 Cerbies that are crying out for my cash, but of differing ages.
1 is V (1999) Speed Six 30,000 miles 1 owner from new, the other is R (1997) 4.2 30,000 miles 3 owners from new.
Both have Full TVRSH and drive well.

Does the age matter, or is it all down to miles here?

trefor

14,661 posts

290 months

Thursday 13th December 2001
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I'd go for the Speed Six - a V reg'd is bound to have better build quality than the older car. Just get the mechanics checked over by someone who knows what they're looking at - I've not seen a Speed Six that cheap before and there could be a reason for it.

I don't see a problem with 30k miles on either engine - probably means the Speed Six engine hasn't spent too long back at Blackpool if anything!

T/.

Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th December 2001
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Thanks for the input - The V reg is ex Company Car Contract Hire and is in a Specialist (non TVR) dealer - I suspect they want it off their hands.

hazy

1,173 posts

275 months

Thursday 13th December 2001
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Speed six is well cheap. I've just paid 30k for 1999v at TVR dealer, albeit with 10000 miles on it!

Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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I am ruling out the 30,000 mile R 4.2, but have just seen another R 4.2 with 16000 in a TVR dealer (mustard Yellow though??) - again full TVRSH for £25K,
So would you still stick with the V 1999 Speed Six with 30,000 with full TVRSH, by the way they are asking £26K, which I still think is a bargain.

Fraser

998 posts

291 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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I think it is important to buy what YOU want....if you are going to drive every day to work etc...then the speed six is noticeably smoother and more 'commuter' friendly....but personally I would not touch a speed six with a barge pole...especially if it is that cheap (as it may well be for a reason)..if you don't like the colour, the interior etc...then DON't buy it....be selective in what you buy as it is your money and £25k is still a lot of money....personally for value I would buy a 4.2 with some miles on the clock as it has a longer history and tested engine....but that is me....

K1 FJB 4.5 Cerbie

Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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Thanks for the advice,Yellow is really not me!

Anyone else think that a Speed Six should be kept at barge pole length!
And is £26K for a V (Sep '99) 30,000 mile Speed Six with Full TVRSH so cheap it should be avoided?

Fraser

998 posts

291 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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Sounds a little cheap to me.....maybe I got fleeced(probably) but I paid £32k for mine from a dealer and it is a 99T 4.5.....

trefor

14,661 posts

290 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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Why not look at some other Cerberas? You've only selected 2 here. The 4.2 is pricey for the age (unless it's at a main dealer). I know it's not a nice thing to say, but you can probably pick up a good '97 4.2 for 20k if you look around. (I've seen R reg'd 4.5s for 25k .)

The Speed Six is cheap, but it doesn't mean there's anything wrong with it - get it checked over by someone who knows what they're looking at and get a warranty. If it's a lease disposal then they're probably trying to get more than a TVR dealer have offered them for it. Early Speed Six engines had a few problems, but at the mileage you're telling us I'd hazard a guess that this one's not a dog (just guessing!!). TVRs like being used and play up when you leave them sitting in the garage.

I'd rather have a 1 year old car over a 3/4 year old car for the same money. Wouldn't you?

T/.

Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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Thanks,

I have looked at a few more, but do not wish to travel too far, nor buy from-the-door.
Both the TVR and non TVR dealer cars have just been serviced by a TVR dealer.

I am also getting the non TVR dealer gather copy invoices for the car to ensure that it has a good history (hopefully I will be able to contact the previous driver and have a chat).

Pit

46 posts

291 months

Friday 14th December 2001
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I don't think the S6 sounds particularly cheap for the mileage. I sold my 99T S6 Cerbie with 12k miles for £26k about 3 months ago. It's a buyers market and I think there are probably better deals to be had.

Mike.

hazy

1,173 posts

275 months

Saturday 15th December 2001
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As I said earlier, just waiting to pick up £30k's worth of speed six,(trading in BMW coupe) but my nerve is wavering.....alot of bad stuff in here about s6's. Car is gorgeous but I have reservations.....anyone done similar deal? Any regrets??????

Martin Hunt

301 posts

275 months

Saturday 15th December 2001
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Hazy / Jak,

I recently bought a Speed 6 1999 for 28k had 11000 miles on the clock, it has just gone back to Blackpool for the camshaft re fitting.

I still love the car and used every day for 3 months without a hitch, even thought the camshaft has allegedly gone it drove well until it went back to the dealers for a service.

I would recommend getting one, but just ensure that you get it properly checked over and get a good warranty.



Martin
Cerbera S 922 OPO

hazy

1,173 posts

275 months

Saturday 15th December 2001
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cheers Martin. Camshaft mods have apparently just been done on the car so hopefully all will be well......watch this space!!!!!

M15ley

467 posts

276 months

Sunday 16th December 2001
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Lots of different opinions here, obviously. However what if you could get a 97-P 4.2, 30k miles with loads of history and receipts for £19k which would leave circa £5-6k left over for any niggles etc!!!

hazy

1,173 posts

275 months

Sunday 16th December 2001
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The consensus of opinion seems to be buy the latest car you can possibly afford (or can,t really!) in a colour combo that appeals to you.Worry about breakdowns and re-builds as and when they happen.Lets face it, if you had a 2k fund to fettle your Cerby are you really gonna stop yourself buying those 18in wheels and Tuscan stylee lights???? I think not!

Jak

Original Poster:

121 posts

275 months

Monday 17th December 2001
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So. To recap,
Buy as new as you can afford
Ensure a Full TVRSH
Get it checked out by a TVR dealer before you buy.
Buy it with a good Warranty - (anyone know which is the defacto warranty).
Keep a couple of £K in your back pocket - coss you will need to spend it some day.
Don't let your Granny drive it.

clarky5150

423 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th December 2001
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Hmmm, Ive just purchased a 97P 4.2 20k FTVRSH Atlantis pearl/full magnolia (yippee). I was advised against an S6 by a very respected ex TVR mechanic and when i probed the dealer (who have been v.good) the salesman steered me away from S6's stating they have had v little problems with AJP8's and shed loads with 6's (stretched valves etc). Time will tell but for 19.5k from dealer in (MHO) a good and quite rare colour i think i made the right choice........(await me eating words in near future!)