Upgrading the brakes

Upgrading the brakes

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Noodles 4.2

Original Poster:

574 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Hello all,

After a recent trip to Le Mans I have come to the conclusion that the standard brakes fitted to my 97 4.2 are not really up to the job.

I am sure there are a number of you who have done such an upgrade. I noticed that most other Cerbs I see around have much beefier brakes than the standards.

Could someone with some experience please outline in fairly simple terms the best options to go for?

I am thinking of getting it done soon as I am sure my discs are slightly warped also. Do drilled discs warp less? I have those green pads on at presnt and find that they fade when warm. Basically any advice would be appreciated.

Tony

dannylt

1,906 posts

291 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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[blatant plug]

How about these 8-pot Brembo brakes? Never ending power, greater sensitivity, remove all risk or warping! :-)

monkeyjunky

418 posts

291 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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What size wheels are you running. Obviously your limited to what size discs you can run if you've got the 16 inch wheels on.

Standard 4.5 discs with decent pads, high grade fluid (Dot 600) and braided hoses are easliy enough to lock a wheel at 80+ without much pedal pressure.

Noodles 4.2

Original Poster:

574 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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monkeyjunky said:
What size wheels are you running. Obviously your limited to what size discs you can run if you've got the 16 inch wheels on.

Standard 4.5 discs with decent pads, high grade fluid (Dot 600) and braided hoses are easliy enough to lock a wheel at 80+ without much pedal pressure.


Thanks,

I am on 16" wheels unfortunately. So the 4.5 discs are bigger than the 4.2? What about the calipers? What are the benefits of braided hoses - less pressure loss I presume?

Danny, those brakes do sound the mutts nuts - I am not sure I am willing to spend 3k on them just yet!

Thanks

Tony

joospeed

4,473 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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have you tried a quick google search for something like "tvr upgrades"?

Noodles 4.2

Original Poster:

574 posts

269 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Thanks Jools,

After carrying out that search on google a familiar looking web-page was suggested at the top of the pile!

Ahem, I have seen a brake upgrade kit for £835 fitted. Is this going to solve all of my woes? Will I never have to press the pedal and pray any more?

Tony

Tam Lin

694 posts

260 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Noodles 4.2 said:
Will I never have to press the pedal and pray any more?

Tony


Doesn't that depend on how close to a corner you start braking?

To approach the problem from another angle, how good is the brake cooling on a standard 4.2? Is there anything to be gained by scoops etc?

joospeed

4,473 posts

285 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Noodles 4.2 said:
Thanks Jools,

After carrying out that search on google a familiar looking web-page was suggested at the top of the pile!

Ahem, I have seen a brake upgrade kit for £835 fitted. Is this going to solve all of my woes? Will I never have to press the pedal and pray any more?

Tony


God bless the internet then and praise be to my web designer who obviously knows his onions.
On the brake issue .. you can't get better than increasd rotor diameter, it means better heat capacity, increased linear speed of rotor past pad for any given angular speed which helps by reducing pad grab on disc so you can modulate braking at the limit of tyre adhesion. A higher spec disc and pad means better transfer of pad to disc surface, less localised heating and less warping,wider heat range, grooved discs get rid of pad resin vapour reducing pad float on the disc surface, etc etc. yeah I'd say it was a win win win situation. whether it cures HIV and stops 15 year olds getting pregnant though is debatable..

rude girl

6,937 posts

266 months

Thursday 19th June 2003
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Oh Joolz, I love it when you talk dirty....