Improving the exhaust note

Improving the exhaust note

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gixxer1000

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786 posts

259 months

Saturday 3rd May 2003
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I am looking for options around improving the exhaust note from my standard 4.5 LW. I have seen lots of threads around de-catting and sports exhausts etc, and I am looking for recommendations.

I am not keen on removing the cats, nor modifying the existing set-up (e.g. removing baffling materials), so I guess I am looking for a sports exhaust - but have no clue where to start.

Who makes these things? What differences in sound should I expect? How much should I expect to pay?

Can anyone recommend somewhere not too far from London that has experience with fitting sports exhaust to Cerberas?

Cheers

futie

654 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd May 2003
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I've tried most of the combinations - cat & std. exhaust, cat & sports exhaust, no cat & sports exhaust. I'm just about to try the 'other' combination of no cats and std. exhaust!

Sports pipes are probably the most common mod - I got mine from Peninsula. It's been so long now, I can't remember what the standard car sounded like, but the sports pipes are certainly quite loud - infact, when I recently decatted with the sports pipes I didn't think it was much louder at idle - it was only when applying full throttle that it really got loud!

The main thing from what I remember is that it drowned out the tappity/chain noise from the engine at idle.

Obviously i'll have a pair of sports pipes doing nothing after I swap for a std. back box. If you want them, let me know - obviously they're not perfect (they're 2 years old!), but I won't be asking £300 either!

gixxer1000

Original Poster:

786 posts

259 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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futie, cheers for the info. I'm definitely interested in buying your sports pipes assuming you decide the de-cat and standard pipes is the way forward for you.

Are they in decent nick? Ever needed welding?

Is your car a 4.5? It looks from Penninsula's website that their is a difference between pipes for 4.2 and 4.5/SP6? My car is a year 2000 4.5 LW.

Having traded up from a 450 Chim, I am missing the deep warble from the Rover V8, and feel the standard sound from the Cerbera is very flat and tinny in comparison. I am hoping that sports pipes will give it a bit more depth. Is that the case, or does the flat and tinny sound just get louder?

Cheers

JulianR

3 posts

268 months

Sunday 4th May 2003
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I have a 4.5 LW Red Rose. I've had it de-catted but retained the std silencer and had orig tailpipes cut off and replaced with 3" ones - they really fill the body cutaway properly and look the bizz. Good sound and LOTS of overrun popping. Also de-cat made engine a bit more peppy. I had sports silencers on my old 4.2 and tried them on the 4.5 but never liked the noise - not as good as the 4.2 made. 4.2 and 4.5 share same exhaust system - manifolds thru silencers.
Cheers.

futie

654 posts

283 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Gixxer,

Depends on what you mean by 'good nick'. I'll take a picture of them when they're off the car and you can decide for yourself. They're fine on a (slightly tatty) '97 4.2 - you only see the end bits after all! But not sure about a posher 4.5! No welding - they are the second set i've had - the first ones were nothing more than motorbike cans which were riveted. They fell apart and started rattling like hell about 9 months after they were fitted.

RUF 3

240 posts

274 months

Monday 5th May 2003
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Not wishing to tread on anybody's toes, but I have a brand new pair in stainless for a 4.2 (same as 4.5 I believe) which I bought from Peninsula about a year ago, but sold the car before I got round to fitting them. They are sitting in the garage still not unpacked. I assume they are new and correct, but I haven't looked !! If they are any good to anybody, 150 notes + carriage would take them away. Email through my profile if interested. Sorry Ted, I know I shouldn't advertise, but it's on topic and a philanthropic act to a fellow PH'er potentially !!

>> Edited by RUF 3 on Monday 5th May 21:42

futie

654 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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No probs, RUF - Gixxer, i'm told the 4.2 pipes won't fit the 4.5 - you have larger diameter pipes! You can faff with them, but might not be worth the hassle I have them in the garage, so if anyone else is interested ....

gixxer1000

Original Poster:

786 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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Thanks for that futie. Looks like both yours and RUF's are no good for me.

Back to the drawing board.

futie

654 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th May 2003
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Don't get me wrong - they can be made to fit - Joolz has just fitted a 4.5 std. backbox (designed for larger diameter pipes) to my 4.2. But it's just not as easy as getting the right pipes for the right car!