Handling at Speed
Discussion
Now I know this is wrong but just put it down to the exuberance of new car ownership 
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I was driving down the M40 the other day, about 21:30 just enjoying the ride at a licence saving 98mph. Foolishly I was driving in the reserved BMW only lane (the one on the right) and was duly flashed by a BMW owner, obviously outraged at the lack of German heritage of my car
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I assumed that it must be a M3 for anyone to have the confidence to do such a potentially embarrassing move and decided to put my foot down to find out.... it was not an M3 and I left it for dead, but here is my question. When the car got to about 140-145 it seemed to handle as if the steering wheel were no longer connected to the rest of the car (i.e. constant steering correction and an incredible feeling of lightless). Now I assume that some of you guys do track days so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the most likely cause of this would be. The cars running standard suspension on 18s with Toyos
. I was driving down the M40 the other day, about 21:30 just enjoying the ride at a licence saving 98mph. Foolishly I was driving in the reserved BMW only lane (the one on the right) and was duly flashed by a BMW owner, obviously outraged at the lack of German heritage of my car
. I assumed that it must be a M3 for anyone to have the confidence to do such a potentially embarrassing move and decided to put my foot down to find out.... it was not an M3 and I left it for dead, but here is my question. When the car got to about 140-145 it seemed to handle as if the steering wheel were no longer connected to the rest of the car (i.e. constant steering correction and an incredible feeling of lightless). Now I assume that some of you guys do track days so I was wondering if anyone can tell me what the most likely cause of this would be. The cars running standard suspension on 18s with Toyos
Well done, Dave!
I ran a Cerby in the not too distant but of course, such high speed antics were reserved for the appropriate conditions, sort of, as you, er, suggested...
Good query because I can directly relate to it. Might I suggest pushing on somewhat? I always sensed a slight 'disconnection' too at about 140 but I recall (with immense joy) the diametric opposite as the pedal was mashed and the readout spiralled ever higher.
In Europe, I recall the nirvana of skimming empty highways for many minutes at a time, maintaining indicated speeds circa 160-175 and feeling utterly, utterly wonderful. The sense of being involved in a red blooded cavalry charge, overwhelming. But, even the missus commented how things felt better, noticeably more stable that is, once 140-odd had been breached.
I think certain Cerberae may have an inherent rough spot in this speed zone so clearly, hoof it some more and feel the power. It has so much more to give!
Bloody fantastic thing. Which model, btw?
DeR.
I ran a Cerby in the not too distant but of course, such high speed antics were reserved for the appropriate conditions, sort of, as you, er, suggested...
Good query because I can directly relate to it. Might I suggest pushing on somewhat? I always sensed a slight 'disconnection' too at about 140 but I recall (with immense joy) the diametric opposite as the pedal was mashed and the readout spiralled ever higher.
In Europe, I recall the nirvana of skimming empty highways for many minutes at a time, maintaining indicated speeds circa 160-175 and feeling utterly, utterly wonderful. The sense of being involved in a red blooded cavalry charge, overwhelming. But, even the missus commented how things felt better, noticeably more stable that is, once 140-odd had been breached.
I think certain Cerberae may have an inherent rough spot in this speed zone so clearly, hoof it some more and feel the power. It has so much more to give!
Bloody fantastic thing. Which model, btw?
DeR.
sixx said: It's a late 2000 Speed Six... got it a week ago, having the time of my life in it....
Fabulous. Must say, compared to the AJP unit, your engine is BMW six silky smooth! The overall racket which used to accompany any journey in mine probably distracted me from noticing too many errant vibrations! Couple that with decatalysed sports pipes and well, as is well documented on PH, these buggers can be something of an automotive maelstrom!
Always fancied a SP6 for it's relatively nicer burble on tickover and let's be honest, in all but autobahn situations, similarity in urgency.
Like I said, fabulous, fantastic creation - still the daddy IMHO - I think it's piccie time, whaddya say?
It's just so utterly
I think the high speed handling might be down to the crap standard suspension (thats what I'm hoping anyway). I will be upgrading mine soon so I will report back with my findings.
The standard springs are soft (even on the v8's) which gives poor body control at speed. Anyhow we will soon see if my theory is right.
Rob.
The standard springs are soft (even on the v8's) which gives poor body control at speed. Anyhow we will soon see if my theory is right.
Rob.
I found the same on my Cerb. Only had it a couple of weeks and surprise surprise found a real M3 up my jaxy. Not for long though - hit 150+ ish and bloke was long gone - the steering/feel did improve slightly.
Must be the only normal BMW driver in the world cos he pulld along side (when I slowed down obviously) to acknowledge defeat.
That's what we like....
Must be the only normal BMW driver in the world cos he pulld along side (when I slowed down obviously) to acknowledge defeat.
That's what we like....
Stiffer springs and better dampers enabled an airfield runway run that was as steady as a rock with an indicated high 180s - a needle's width below 190mph - in my 4.5 with a passenger on board.
Whats all this with the BMW bashing? My derestricted M5 speedometer shows 175mph at the same venue. Not too different from a six cylinder TVR's top end.
Whats all this with the BMW bashing? My derestricted M5 speedometer shows 175mph at the same venue. Not too different from a six cylinder TVR's top end.
, just having a go at the company car 318 owners who treat the outside lane like they are the Last of the Great Road Warriors....
Doesn't look like anything has been knocked off.. I can't really tell...
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