Very Hot Cerb

Very Hot Cerb

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RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Sunday 9th February 2003
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Just noticed whilst coming back from the Mid Essex TVRCC meeting this afternoon that the cooling fans on my 4.5 Cerbera were not coming on at all!

The temperature guage was moving past 105C when we hit stationary traffic on the M25.
Whilst the car was on the move it ran normally at around 80C.

When I got home, I let the car idle and noticed that indeed the fans did not come on!

I have checked the fuse in the boot panel - all OK there!.

Does anyone know where the "thermo-switch" is located on a 4.5 Cerb and is it difficult to check / replace?

Has anyone else had similar problems?

Any help gratefully received .

I suppose that as this is my 1st mechanical problem in my 2 years ownership I should consider myself lucky!

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

267 months

Sunday 9th February 2003
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Les i hope i havent been a bad omen,when i asked you about reliability this morning.But it sounds to me as though its the fan relay switch not working.

RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Sunday 9th February 2003
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Thanks for that info Mark,

I assume the relay switch you refer to would be the one on the fuse panel in the boot?....any ideas on how I could check this out would really be most helpful.

Many thanks in advance,

Leszek.

ches

77 posts

276 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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Same thing happened to me back in the summer. Turned out to be the thermostatic switch located centrally beneath the cover behind the fans (6 allen srews holding the cover on) Piece of cake to change, about £16 to buy including postage. Hope this helps.

yellowcerbie

159 posts

277 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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mine temp went to the max and, in stationary traffic, when past the max into the oil pressure area.

turned out that I had an airlock

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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Imposter here but, i thought your fans were controlled by the ECU, first one fan and then both on?

RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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Thanks very much for your input everyone.

I will try to locate the thermostatic switch tomorrow.
Ches, do you know who might sell the thermostatic switch, or indeed which car manufacurer did it originate from?
What about the relays in the fuse board? Does anybody know how I might check these and where I might get these from?

Once again many thanks for all the help received.

Leszek.

ches

77 posts

276 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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Peninsula supplied mine but I'm sure most dealers or independents would be able to help you.

RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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Thanks Ches!

I will let you all know how I get on!

Leszek

Cerbnut

86 posts

269 months

Tuesday 11th February 2003
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I had similar problem. Disconnecting the aforementioned temp sensor at the front N/S of the engine bay and cleaning up the contacts did the trick for me.

RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th February 2003
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My Cerbera is cooling down properly again!

It was the temperature sensor after all.

I received the new part this afternoon and fitted it without any problems.

Many thanks to everyone for their helpful advice!

Leszek.

whatever

2,174 posts

277 months

Tuesday 18th February 2003
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As a postscrpt to this, another cause for fans not coming on is the connector for them is in an exposed place, and often corrodes internally.

It's notmally located at the bottom centre of the fans and tends to sit in a little shelf formed by the lower portion of the fan housing. This can fill with water in wet weather and the connector corrodes. Net result: fans not comiong on. Solution is to pull the connector apart and clean contact. Alternatively, cut it off and connect the wires directly.

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Tuesday 18th February 2003
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Hi, i wondered, do both your fans come on at the same time, or does one come on first? Thats to say do you have two of these?
David

RZD

Original Poster:

141 posts

275 months

Tuesday 18th February 2003
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Only the left hand side fan comes on. I'm not sure when the other fan is supposed to come on.

Does anyone have any ideas?

monkeyjunky

418 posts

291 months

Tuesday 18th February 2003
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IIRC they come on about 7 degrees apart. I had a problem last year testing the second one as with the bonnet open the first fan was enough to lower the temp. The passenger side fan should come on first followed by drivers side. Interestingly for me when the A/C was out of gas the engine had to be running in order for the fans to operate. Once the A/C had been refilled the fans would come on if required (engine hot enough) with the ignition on but engine off. Never could work out why.

david beer

3,982 posts

274 months

Wednesday 19th February 2003
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Ah, that explains it, well for me. The thing on the Rad must be a sensor rather than a switch,(unless it is two channel) then the ECU turns the fans on.

whatever

2,174 posts

277 months

Wednesday 19th February 2003
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david beer said: Ah, that explains it, well for me. The thing on the Rad must be a sensor rather than a switch,(unless it is two channel) then the ECU turns the fans on.


It is indeed the ECU which actually turns on and off the fans. However, single fan running (when two are fitted) on my car was fixed by cleaning the connector as described above. So, I think it's worth checking it if you can only get one fan to come on.

I'll grant you that it's easier to check when it isn't so f-f-f-freezing cold.