Making the cerb lower

Making the cerb lower

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Byff

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4,427 posts

268 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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Is there anything I can do to temporarily lower my Cerb.

I've got to go along to some speed humps and show my local council that they catch the car so shouldn't be intstalled on my road.

Then once it's very nearly caught the underside and ripped everything apart, I can go home, put everything back to normal and drive content that my street aint gettin speed humps.

Proposed humps - 75mm high

Keeping fingers crossed. This is make or break time and a brilliant way of getting rid of humps.

daver

1,209 posts

291 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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I think you'd have to swap the wheels for castors to scrape anything only 75mm high!

Alternatively, you could put some spacers in between the ladder plate thingy under the cats/exhaust and the chassis. You'd need to replace the 10 bolts with longer ones though if you put enough spacing in to drop the plate down that low.

Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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Going to put a few bags of sand in the boot and lower the tyre pressures. That should get me a few mm's. Load the car up with a couple of fatso's.

If anyone wants to swap my 17's for 16 inch wheels for the weekend, that will score for another 15mm heh heh.

I should ask a few Nova boys how to slam my car - they'll know how to do it.

mlumb

2,420 posts

273 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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how about some coil spring clamps,about six quid per side used by racy types who can't afford new springs,made by grayston i think.

also full tank of fuel.

k-9

28 posts

263 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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Request the sevices of one your, shall we say, larger proportioned friends to accompany you.

I have only had my Cerb for a week, so taking people at work out in it as they have never seen one before.
On one such ride I scraped things i had not scraped before with one of my friends in the passenger seat. Had to have lowered the ride height a fair few mm's

Good luck with your bid, speed humps are a pain in my exhausts!!!

ken

swilly

9,699 posts

281 months

Friday 31st January 2003
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k-9 said:
Good luck with your bid, speed humps are a pain in my exhausts!!!



I know of a good cream....

DeeGee

10 posts

265 months

Saturday 1st February 2003
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They're all at it!! Just got the letter from my council (City of Sunderland) this AM detailing their plans for "75mm exhaust dismantlers" on the sole access to my house!!

Byff, When's your date? Let me know how you get on, as I'm sure a Drive/ Scrape By for council spectators is going to inevitable if I'm to win this fight against unnecessary damage to Cerb and tax payers purse.

Anyone else been through such trials to date? Any advise/ success stories??

bilton_d

605 posts

273 months

Sunday 2nd February 2003
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while we are on the matter of speed humps what are the maximum heights they can be and does the height aply to private car parks? i have looked at a few pages on the net and it apears 75mm is the recomended but they can be 100mm.

Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Sunday 2nd February 2003
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North Tyneside uses 100mm speed humps which even the bloke proposing these 75mm jobbies think are excessive.

Judging by the amount of DoT regs and stuff I've been studying, humps can be between 50-100mm depending upon the area of installation and speed reduction required.

I know the ones your on about m8, they were there before I started for Newell (then called Corning) so I doubt you'll get those shifted and they always were a pain in the exhaust.

BTW, my latest thinking is that I might glue some sacrifical bits of plastic to the underside, then when I go over humps on the demo run, bits fall off and I can go berserk.

Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Sunday 2nd February 2003
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OK, just done a quick try over the "speed cushions" with myself, wife, two kids and 2 small bags of shopping from Safeway in the boot.

Went over the first hump ok, wife said I was just being arkward and I should turn around and stop wasting the councils time.

Turned around and went back over the opposite hump and...........SCRAAAAAPE!

Ha, told you so.

Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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**** UPDATE ****

Been down to the hump site with two council lads to check on ground clearance.

I must state that I had no lowering devices on the car other than the driver eating a donut....hmmm.....donuts.

One council lad stayed outside, the other sat inside the car and off we went over the first hump which we cleared on Sunday - small scrape, so I knew the second one would be a major scrape.

Turned round and proceeded slowly to the second hump - the car completely grounded. Reversed off, council lads scratched heads and went off to rethink their ideas.

Watch this space to see what the next hair brained scheme they can think up.

P7ULG

1,052 posts

290 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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DeeGee said: They're all at it!! Just got the letter from my council (City of Sunderland) this AM detailing their plans for "75mm exhaust dismantlers" on the sole access to my house!!

Byff, When's your date? Let me know how you get on, as I'm sure a Drive/ Scrape By for council spectators is going to inevitable if I'm to win this fight against unnecessary damage to Cerb and tax payers purse.

Anyone else been through such trials to date? Any advise/ success stories??



Don't want to sound pessamistic but do you think the council really care!When I had my cerbera there were roads in South Tyneside I had to avoid totally.Our Council seems hell bent on narrowing roads and introducing speed bumps everywhere.

Byff

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4,427 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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P7ULG said:

Don't want to sound pessamistic but do you think the council really care!When I had my cerbera there were roads in South Tyneside I had to avoid totally.Our Council seems hell bent on narrowing roads and introducing speed bumps everywhere.




Did you do anything about it? I could have just gave up after the first refusal, but I kept plugging away, getting the councilors on my side and sympathising that there is a speed problem next to our schools but its no good introducing methods that would effectively "fence my car in" to my village.

I pay my road tax to use the roads. I do so within the framework of the law in that I obey speed restrictions etc so if measures are introduced, it should not effect me, as I'm operating my vehicle legally.



P7ULG

1,052 posts

290 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Byff said:

P7ULG said:

Don't want to sound pessamistic but do you think the council really care!When I had my cerbera there were roads in South Tyneside I had to avoid totally.Our Council seems hell bent on narrowing roads and introducing speed bumps everywhere.




Did you do anything about it? I could have just gave up after the first refusal, but I kept plugging away, getting the councilors on my side and sympathising that there is a speed problem next to our schools but its no good introducing methods that would effectively "fence my car in" to my village.

I pay my road tax to use the roads. I do so within the framework of the law in that I obey speed restrictions etc so if measures are introduced, it should not effect me, as I'm operating my vehicle legally.





I do agree but being devils advocate here,if the majority of cars in your area can negotiate these bumps why should the council listen to the owner of an expensive low slung sports car! It is the policy of most councils now to narrow roads,introduce speed bumps, cycle lanes, bus lanes etc.While it may sound paranoid this is all part of the process to get motorists off the road and on to public transport. If the councils don't do this they get there budgets cut.As motorists we are being asked to pay more and more while the roads are transformed into obstacle courses.


TVR5

595 posts

265 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Buy that ex-racing Cerb speed 12 for a few days. That has a ground clearance of about 5mm. Then as well as not being able to put in 75mm speed humps, they won't be able to put in any. They may even be forced to resurface the road as it will be grounding on any uneven surface. So you may get a road like......erm..a race track for example! Sorted.

Will be interesting to see if you can stop them putting those sod awful speed bumps in though.
There are several places I cannot go to now because of the bloody things.

Byff

Original Poster:

4,427 posts

268 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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P7ULG said:

I do agree but being devils advocate here,if the majority of cars in your area can negotiate these bumps why should the council listen to the owner of an expensive low slung sports car!




The council should listen to me because I'm now a minority.

And as everyone knows - minorities seem to get their own way over the majority.

alan_driver

1,281 posts

264 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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Byff said:
I should ask a few Nova boys how to slam my car - they'll know how to do it.

They will tell you to chop the springs in half. [seriously, i have read it in a 'mag' - a mates mag, honest-oh the shame]

Well done on your attempts at getting rid of these bumps, How come they havn't just said go another way?

dimmadan

701 posts

270 months

Monday 3rd February 2003
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There are other methods of traffic calming not involving speed bumps, surely they could consider those if there is an accident problem eg chicane type...Is there a 'real' accident problem or are they just following 'safer routes to school policy'. There are some stats on number of accidents within certain distance of schools somewhere, hence the schemes.

P7ULG

1,052 posts

290 months

Tuesday 4th February 2003
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Byff said:

P7ULG said:

I do agree but being devils advocate here,if the majority of cars in your area can negotiate these bumps why should the council listen to the owner of an expensive low slung sports car!




The council should listen to me because I'm now a minority.

And as everyone knows - minorities seem to get their own way over the majority.




Only problem being you probably already hold a British Passport!

octane junkie

244 posts

275 months

Monday 10th February 2003
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I always wondered whether speed bumps constituted somekind of denial of privilege - as Byff says, he's a law abiding citizen and should be able to drive within the legal limits. I know for certain that if I drive over most of the 75mm bumps around at more than 15 - 20 mph then I am going to lose bits of Cerbera (the chin spoiler thingy, more often than not). I'm also pretty sure that there are many more "normal" or more commonly driven cars on our roads that would suffer similar fates.

So why can't I use my discretion and drive within the limit, without risk of physical damage and potential personal injury?