4.2 Cerbera Restoration

4.2 Cerbera Restoration

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Stick Legs

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6,800 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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Hello.

A friend of mine & I are about to embark on restoring his Cerbera.

It looks very forlorn but the chassis appears good (but body will come off anyway to check) and the engine turns over on a battery.
The ECU was full of water, but we dried that out & it fires.

First hurdle to getting it running is all of the cooling hoses are perished.

Does anyone have a source of a full set we could buy?

I’m off to join the club as I have a suspicion that there is going to be a lot of dead ends and hurdles with this project.

I also suspect that I will end up buying my own once this is done.

Thanks in advance.




TwinKam

3,276 posts

107 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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Hi and good luck!
There's a set of used silicon ones that has just been flagged up by Byker28i on another current thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Or this is for a new set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275872271434?mkcid=16&a...
(Unverified, just passing on a link)

Edited by TwinKam on Tuesday 26th September 16:08

pmessling

2,307 posts

215 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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There are options for hoses. You can get a full set from ACT. However you can get all the hoses separately from Auto Silicon Hoses ( ASH) they are all 35mm inside diameter. If you have the old then easy to measure.

I can help in the replacement of some parts I have a range of stainless steel replacements.

Be sure to head over to Facebook cerbera pages. People are alot more active. But there is a lot of information and knowledge on both piatonheads and Facebook groups.

notaping

388 posts

83 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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That's looking very sorry for itself. Well done for taking on the resto. If you're open to advice - I'd say you can't take too many photos for reference. It might be a long time between stripping something and putting it back together. I found them invaluable. Be prepared for a long haul.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsmLDRx9C

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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TwinKam said:
Hi and good luck!
There's a set of used silicon ones that has just been flagged up by Byker28i on another current thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Or this is for a new set:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275872271434?mkcid=16&a...
(Unverified, just passing on a link)

Edited by TwinKam on Tuesday 26th September 16:08
Thanks for that.
The new set looks perfect, for the hassle may as well fit new.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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pmessling said:
There are options for hoses. You can get a full set from ACT. However you can get all the hoses separately from Auto Silicon Hoses ( ASH) they are all 35mm inside diameter. If you have the old then easy to measure.

I can help in the replacement of some parts I have a range of stainless steel replacements.

Be sure to head over to Facebook cerbera pages. People are alot more active. But there is a lot of information and knowledge on both piatonheads and Facebook groups.
Thank you, neither my mate or I are on FB but may join as the Cerbera just to partake of the group.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Tuesday 26th September 2023
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notaping said:
That's looking very sorry for itself. Well done for taking on the resto. If you're open to advice - I'd say you can't take too many photos for reference. It might be a long time between stripping something and putting it back together. I found them invaluable. Be prepared for a long haul.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsmLDRx9C
She is rather.
Been off the road for 15 years now. Stored outside for a while, then moved indoors.

All advice gratefully received.

Luckily there isn’t too much visible corrosion, the wet ECU was down to a failed windscreen seal.

ukkid35

6,331 posts

185 months

Wednesday 27th September 2023
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Congratulations on rescuing the MBE, that saved you a decent sum

Since you're likely to replace most if not all consumables, it is worth shopping around

For instance PartsForTVRs/Motoclan will charge you £15 for a CV boot, or you can pay £25 for an entire CV Joint kit (NAPA NCV1128 from PartsInMotion)

Mr Cerbera

5,116 posts

242 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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notaping said:
That's looking very sorry for itself. Well done for taking on the resto. If you're open to advice - I'd say you can't take too many photos for reference. It might be a long time between stripping something and putting it back together. I found them invaluable. Be prepared for a long haul.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsmLDRx9C
One of the best pieces of advice that I've ever read, Gordon thumbup

I tried to look at pages 2 & 3 of your epic voyage but could not get access.
Any hints on how I can see them ?

Ta !
PJ

( Just checked and I have > 4,500 photos of mine )yikes

notaping

388 posts

83 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Cheers Paul. Just checked Flickr - there's only one access option for the whole album - so not sure why you can't see pages 2 & 3. Might have been a glitch on the Flickr server or maybe try clearing the cache on your browser?

Vsix and Vtec

897 posts

30 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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I adore your car, its pretty much the perfect spec were I to chose for myself. I look forward to seeing the full glory of it back on the road.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Thanks.

It’s a shame it got to that stage but bringing it back to life will be fun.

They are beautiful cars & that green really is nice.



What we are aiming for.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Friday 29th September 2023
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Full set of hoses purchased from John in Chorley.

So hopefully will get some coolant in her for an extended run to check our ECU does work.

Mr Cerbera

5,116 posts

242 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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notaping said:
Cheers Paul. Just checked Flickr - there's only one access option for the whole album - so not sure why you can't see pages 2 & 3. Might have been a glitch on the Flickr server or maybe try clearing the cache on your browser?
Thanks Gordon,

Got there in the end eek

It makes my heart cry when I see how some cars deteriorate in 50K
BUT
It makes it sing when I see the determination of people, like yourself, who painstakingly go through the enormity of such a rebuild - Well done, Sir.

Heat-shielding on the Chassis looks stunning thumbup

And now the questions:-

1) How did you go about acquiring / attaching / fixing the heatshielding on the Inner Wings ?

2) Is there any hint you can give as to which way the ribbon cables are attached under the Instrument Nacelle ?
Mine popped out when I was workng under there and I have no idea which way round they are supposed to connect.- certainly NOT in the simplest format, that's for sure. banghead

3) What's the Blue Stuff on the floor ? Is it sound-deadening ? If so, why didn't you put it up against the front bilkhead ?

Many Thanks,

PJ


Edited by Mr Cerbera on Sunday 1st October 14:26

notaping

388 posts

83 months

Sunday 1st October 2023
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Paul,

1) I made the heat shielding up from sheets of this - https://nimbusmotorsport.com/collections/reflectiv... I used the old ones as templates. Left an extra half inch all round, then painted a one inch strip of contact glue round the edge on the back, fold over the extra half inch and you end up with the original size with a neat edge. I then got an old sewing machine and stitched a border a quarter of an inch in - to finish it off. (If you don't have access to a sewing machine, I'm sure a friendly trimmer would do this step for a few quid.)

Originally the heat shield was fixed on with glue and pop rivets. I didn't like the look of the pop rivets - so just went with high temp contact spray. Seems to be holding ok. The only place I did use pop rivets was where the heat shield goes onto the roof of the tunnel, above the bell housing. The left over material from this was used for the chassis shielding.

2) I take it you mean the cables above the steering column into the grey box. I replaced them with colour coded ones from Amazon - https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00O9Y80AK/ref=pe_2706... - more flexible and better for future reference.



3) I could never stop the ingress of water into the car and got fed up with the backs of my trouser legs getting soaked when driving - so I decided to let the water out. The blue stuff is non slip matting, about 5mm thick, and is a mesh. https://www.amazon.co.uk/BWKJMY-Drainage-Commercia...

The carpet goes on top. Any water getting in has the 5mm gap under the carpet to percolate through to the channels in the floor. I drilled a couple of holes in the channels to let the water out. The carpets are now dry and no more wet legs smile

G.

Mr Cerbera

5,116 posts

242 months

Wednesday 4th October 2023
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Gordon,

You're an absolute STAR !

Thanks very much for taking the time to reply so fully thumbup

flyingdutchie

859 posts

206 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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And...if you need help with the control boxes/ecu's, contact python racing.

Stick Legs

Original Poster:

6,800 posts

177 months

Thursday 5th October 2023
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flyingdutchie said:
And...if you need help with the control boxes/ecu's, contact python racing.
Thank you!