Anyone tried Nitron damper/spring units?
Discussion
My 4.5 is suffering from clonks and creaks from the rear . Richard at Peninsula who serviced the beast 500 miles ago reckons it's the rear shocks. After much discussion he's almost persuabed me to go for a full set of Nitron shock/spring units with around 15% increase in the spring rates. Anyone tried these units. At around £860 for a full set of 4, I don't want to lash out unless they really are he DB's. Advice please anyone?
Regards
John
Regards
John
IMHO, as I am a lowly lotus elise owner, I have the nitron kit on my elise and can only say good things about them. One thing though, they are a mono-tube design so they make a little noise, but only perceptable at low speeds. Go drive a car if you need to hear if its acceptable. I have given them alot of abuse on track and airfield days and they have worked very well and reliably. The adjustable damping feature is great if you want to track it and springs can be bought for 30 odd quid per corner if you want to tune the spring rates to preference. (I have several sets now..)
I personally can't fault them except the long leadtime to get a set made when ordering..'specially now in race season.
Lr.
I personally can't fault them except the long leadtime to get a set made when ordering..'specially now in race season.
Lr.
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My 4.5 is suffering from clonks and creaks from the rear . Richard at Peninsula who serviced the beast 500 miles ago reckons it's the rear shocks. After much discussion he's almost persuabed me to go for a full set of Nitron shock/spring units with around 15% increase in the spring rates. Anyone tried these units. At around £860 for a full set of 4, I don't want to lash out unless they really are he DB's. Advice please anyone?
Regards
John
Got a set on the V8S, superb!
hi john it depends what your after, do you just want to get rid of the noises or do you want to do a lot of track days? nitrons are very good no doubt but there are cheaper alternatives for mainly road use, AVOs for example which are quite a bit cheaper i have fitted a lot of these to cerberas and at nearly half the cost of the standard shock represent good value for money
regards andy
regards andy
Just about anything is better than the stuff that is fitted as standard. I binned mine after I had a rear damper snap (luckily only doing 60mph). I replaced them with Ohlins, and I must say, I was mighty impressed. They're not cheap (£600 a corner just for the dampers), but they're bloody good.
James
James
I have Nitron NTX dampers all round, fitted by Joolz along with custom springs and front ARB. The handling on both road and track is transformed (with appropriate damper adjustment). A total bargain performance wise - this should be the first mod you make to the car...
Considering the cost per damper isn't that much greater than OEM TVR prices considering the performance, it's an easy choice!
danny
Considering the cost per damper isn't that much greater than OEM TVR prices considering the performance, it's an easy choice!
danny
Trouble being merely that you have get down on your arse and reach around the wheel, and that you'll get your hand dirty. With a little practice it takes hardly any time at all, though strong fingers help if you're paranoid like me, and always count clicks from one extreme rather than trusting the original setting! (Never know when you're mechanic has been softening it up 
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)ah but you have the earlier ntx, on the latest ntr the adjuster is concentric with the piston rod just under the top spherical joint which puts it annoyingly inline with the front upper wishbone meaning you can't get a good grip on it. I'm going to get Nitron to look into doing remote reservoirs on the cheap for us TVR guys, adjusters in the boot and engine bay would be cool and much easier to access. I mount the raer dampers inverted now cos access is easier but the fronts can't be done like that cos then the adjuster is buried in the bottom arm .. and even harder to get to.
, not low in temperature!quote:
cool as in kewl and cool seeing as I have a nice half moon shaped scar on my right forearm fron a hot brake dics whilst adjusting some dampers recently .. mental note to self .. let the blinking owner do it next time!! teehee.
Anyone compared NTR and NTX? Worth the extra money?
I would imagine so, the theory suggests there should be and I don't think Guy is the sort of bloke to change things for the sake of it, higher quality components, mono tube so oil viscosity more consistent when worked hard, thicker piston and greater valving area. Guy will talk you through the techie bits that go waaaaaaaay over my head and show you dyno charts of both versions too .. ha ha.
I've driven Danny's Cerbie with the Joolz mods - MUCH MUCH better IMHO. Coped well with bumpy country lanes near me, and then when we got onto the smooth and windy A413 to Buckingham (great road if anybody knows it!), t'was a revelation. None of this wandering back end I used to get on my Cerb with the standard setup.
I have the new NTR dampers and can confirm that they are a vast improvement over the standard damping. Both in the quality of the ride and improved feel of the car (seat of the pants stuff).
The only word of warning is that's it great having adjustable suspension but you've got to adjust it and it's just as easy to make the car just about undriveable as it is to make it superb. I'm having trouble finding the correct set-up in terms of springs / ride height and damping. It's a mixture of lack of experience on my part trying to explain what I like and finding a suitable compromise for everyday use and more sprited use. It's frustating knowing that what I want is in there I just can't get it out.
Once I find a suitable set-up it's going to be easy to make slight adjustments for track days and road use.
What I need is a box of springs and a day on my favorite road / track with my favorite mechanic, JOOLZ! help...
Cheers, Steve
Grey 4.2 Cerbie
>> Edited by grey42cerbie on Tuesday 17th September 21:58
The only word of warning is that's it great having adjustable suspension but you've got to adjust it and it's just as easy to make the car just about undriveable as it is to make it superb. I'm having trouble finding the correct set-up in terms of springs / ride height and damping. It's a mixture of lack of experience on my part trying to explain what I like and finding a suitable compromise for everyday use and more sprited use. It's frustating knowing that what I want is in there I just can't get it out.
Once I find a suitable set-up it's going to be easy to make slight adjustments for track days and road use.
What I need is a box of springs and a day on my favorite road / track with my favorite mechanic, JOOLZ! help...
Cheers, Steve
Grey 4.2 Cerbie
>> Edited by grey42cerbie on Tuesday 17th September 21:58
quote:
I have the new NTR dampers and can confirm that they are a vast improvement over the standard damping. Both in the quality of the ride and improved feel of the car (seat of the pants stuff).
The only word of warning it that's it great having adjustable suspension but you've got to adjust it and it's just as easy to make the car undriveable as it is to make it superb. I'm having trouble finding the correct set-up in terms of springs / ride height and damping. It's a mixture of lack of experience on my part trying to explain what I like and finding a suitable compromise for everyday use and more sprited use. It's frustating knowing that what I want is in there I just can't get it out.
Once I find a suitable set-up it's going to be easy to make slight adjustments for track days and road use.
What I need is a box of springs and a day on my favorite road / track with my favorite mechanic, JOOLZ! help...
Cheers, Steve
Grey 4.2 Cerbie
thing is steve I don't think you'll find a set-up that allows you to only make minor tweaks to go between back road blasting and track days, the two are just so different in set up terms. What feels great on the road feels crap on the track. It must also be down to driving styles also, on Jon's Tuscan I had set-ups that I thought were terrific but Jon didn't think so - that's why it's important to get a feel for the car and give good feedback. On both your spring sets I think I'd got a good car, what is it that you don't like this time?
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