Cooling System Schematic AJP

Cooling System Schematic AJP

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Warwick67

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418 posts

226 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Anyone out there got anything that passes for a schematic of the cooling spagetti on an AJP Cerb (4.5)?

Mine started leaking on Saturday, inspection of the pipework shows they're fooked, the metal one are way fragile, I'm groundedfrown. So its time for a new set of pipes, just wondered if there is a decent picture of what I'm dealing with, before I start?read

K4TRV

1,819 posts

264 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Hi Warwick,

Something for you to look at; found on the ACT spares page: http://www.actproducts.co.uk/shop/sc007-tvr-cerber...

Not something you "knock-up" in an evening in the garage ???

Hope you get back on the Speed Champs scene soon?

HTH's

Trev

jwk75

3 posts

144 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Hello,

Two weeks ago I've replaced the pipes and hoses for ACT s/s pipes and silicon hoses on my 4.5 (believe the 4.2 is identical).

A picture (top view from front) of the old parts and how they are connected to each other and to the engine:



The lower radiator hose and the two small diameter hoses to the expansion tank are not shopwn in the picture.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

JW

C3BER

4,714 posts

235 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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I just wish the F1 panel was clear. Blue silicon pipes and sparkly pipe work covered up frown

Alistair H.

1,173 posts

283 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Not to be fitted without...

http://www.actproducts.co.uk/shop/hk007b-cerbera-a...

and if you are that far...you may as well go for....

http://www.actproducts.co.uk/shop/ar002-tvr-griffi...

Ker....ching! Welcome to my world.

Seriously on the spaghetti.... I would be taking photos and making my own diagrams bit by bit as I dismantled it. Either that or take hoses off one at a time and replace new ones as you go.

If you go silicon hoses, be sure to nip them up a couple of times after a few heat cycles. they can be a little weepy as they bed in. Not as weepy as your wallet will be though.

Get it sorted for Prescott!

Warwick67

Original Poster:

418 posts

226 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Trev,

I'm still planning on Prescott, couple of clear WE's before then so should be OK... Hope Pete's troubles turn out to be not too disastrous....

Those bits do look nice and shiny & not at all like mine do...eek Now, the short induction looks good, oh and the nice shiny Nitrons, Polly bush, new wishbones.... oopswobble, control.....

Cheers
Warwick

C3BER

4,714 posts

235 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Ran my car for four hundred miles with the F1 off so I could nip up anything that leaked.

K4TRV

1,819 posts

264 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Alistair H. said:
Snippity............ Not as weepy as your wallet will be though.

Get it sorted for Prescott!snip
That will be Prescott 2014 you mean?.........kerching!!

Trev

K4TRV

1,819 posts

264 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Warwick67 said:
Trev,

I'm still planning on Prescott, couple of clear WE's before then so should be OK... Hope Pete's troubles turn out to be not too disastrous....

Those bits do look nice and shiny & not at all like mine do...eek Now, the short induction looks good, oh and the nice shiny Nitrons, Polly bush, new wishbones.... oopswobble, control.....

Cheers
Warwick
Just don't rush all that work, just 'cause Alistair had a body off (car that is) and ran it like-nothings-gone-wrong for the last two events.........I'm still impressed by that!!

I think Pete will be out for a few events whilst he decides what's wrong & who will do the work? I think he'll use the "other" Griff for Prescott.

Fingers crossed for you.

Trev

anonymous-user

66 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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jwk75 said:
Hello,

Two weeks ago I've replaced the pipes and hoses for ACT s/s pipes and silicon hoses on my 4.5 (believe the 4.2 is identical).

A picture (top view from front) of the old parts and how they are connected to each other and to the engine:



The lower radiator hose and the two small diameter hoses to the expansion tank are not shopwn in the picture.

Hope this helps.

Best regards,

JW
Pretty much what I did, but used the new shiny ones on the lounge carpet instead smile Rad would be at the top of the pic, engine at the bottom. If I've got it wrong, wiser heads will be along shortly!


Cerbieherts

1,652 posts

153 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Warwick, my car has the radiator panel out at the moment, If you buy the ACT pipes and want a pattern to route them by, pop down the workshop and help yourself.....

ukkid35

6,331 posts

185 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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You'll see from djsteve's pic that all but one of the silicone hoses can be off the shelf items, however the top rad hose is a bit more awkward.

Bigadz

393 posts

160 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Pain in the ass job so don't rush it and you'll be fine, prepare to loose your knuckles on this one! All the Cerbs pretty much have this coming now. Quite a few threads to use to get the info on here. In addition to that my top tips are:

- Stanley knife the old hoses out, easier and most of the old jubilees will cross thread anyway!
- You can get all of the hoses separately from autosiliconehoses, including a reinforced flexible rad hose for a LOT less than the ACT hose kits, you do have to cut them to size but you need to do this anyway with the ACT kits apparently to get perfect routing.
- You will need to retighten the clips after a good few runs.
- Don't rush removing the old capillary as it can be delicate.
- Take lots of before pics to help you.
- Repeat bleeding rad then water rails several times.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

213 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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The diagram I made when I did my body off restoration.


anonymous-user

66 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Tanguero said:
The diagram I made when I did my body off restoration.

Blooming 'eck Rolfaguero wink


Warwick67

Original Poster:

418 posts

226 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Fantastic, thanks for the help gents, Prescott here we comebiggrin

Tanguero

4,535 posts

213 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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djstevec said:
Blooming 'eck Rolfaguero wink
Can you tell what it is yet?

Warwick67

Original Poster:

418 posts

226 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Bigadz said:
In addition to that my top tips are:

- You can get all of the hoses separately from autosiliconehoses, including a reinforced flexible rad hose for a LOT less than the ACT hose kits, you do have to cut them to size but you need to do this anyway with the ACT kits apparently to get perfect routing.
Just had a look & I see what you mean :-) Dont suppose anyone has a relevant parts list (list of pipes & pipe diameters), looking at the state of the pipes on there, I'm not sure measuring the ones that come off would help very much...

Bigadz

393 posts

160 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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That was my shopping list and worked out fine.

You can ignore the second to last item though 90-120mm clips as that was just me replacing my old airbox clips with shiny stainless ones!

ukkid35

6,331 posts

185 months

Tuesday 14th May 2013
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Warwick67 said:
Dont suppose anyone has a relevant parts list (list of pipes & pipe diameters)
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=6&t=1069072&nmt=AJP+V8+Coolant+Hoses&mid=186034