EU to delay ICE car ban until 2040

[DD3566]

https://www.carwow.co.uk/news/9999/eu-to-delay-pet...

Potentially interesting development if true, will the UK government follow suit and delay from 2030 to 2035 or even 2040?

[plfrench]

It's like a big old game of chinese whispers

The earlier stories were reporting about the potential allowance of e-fuels / low carbon fuels beyond 2035 (i.e. not boggo basic Diesel or petrol), this Carwow story thought that level of nuance was incidental so didn't bother to include!

I really can't see the UK doing anything with this as we have no need to change course.

[cerb4.5lee]

Knowing the UK government, they'll bring it forward rather than push it back!

They just like being different for differents sake it seems.

[fridaypassion]

There's literally no point in having the EV industry with China having 3000 coal fired power stations.

When you think about it the whole thing is a bait and switch.

The west sacrifice their whole car building industry. Cheap Government subsidised crappy Chinese EV dealers popping up like Turkish Barbers all whilst China are still building NEW coal powered power stations. Idea totally crazy we needed to stop it all and sanction China into reducing emissions.

All that's going to happen is China will be the world's car supplier and eventually ratchet prices up once the last VW plant uses closed.

[Virtual PAH]

Saw this covered by Scottish Car Clan on YouTube.

The 2035 Engine Ban Is About To Collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OucjJR2swi4


My initial thought was if the provision is ICE can continue but only if using sustainable fuels/efuels will there be enough production for all the existing ICE or will it mean limited supply which would effectively lead to higher price per gallon and price out normal folk?

Afaik sustainable fuel and efuels (e.g. Porsche's initiative) produce synthetic fuel from greener sources than oil refinement so may have implications on older engine/fuel system compatibility like ethanol does that can degrade some materials quicker than others? i.e. they may game the system so only new ICE cars have the right materials in the engine bay to cope with the new fuels, allowing historic ICE to wither as traditional petrol supplies dwindle due to falling demand and tax incentives to move to greener transport options.

So I'm not hopeful the governments of UK and Europe will do the right thing if they only want to appease the local car makers that are kicking up the fuss, who will only be interested in selling new vehicles not ensuring old ones remain supported.

[Glider man.]

Politicians generally object to common sense. It would appear, for once, even in the sclerotic E.U they have had to concede.
How long before our "so called " energy secretary admits that his green agenda is dead and buried. I for one will not be holding my breath. Comparisons with the band on the Titanic spring to mind.
I would bet that the atmosphere in Mr.Clarksons pub in the cotswolds will be pretty euphoric tonight.

[shera2025]

Interesting if it goes through. The UK tends to set its own targets, so it may stick with 2030 or shift slightly, but a full delay to 2040 seems unlikely. Could make for an interesting market shift either way!

[plfrench]

I have a feeling the EU will bring in their fuel inducement system idea as part of the detail on their proposal. This won’t allow post 2035 ICE / hybrid cars to operate on non low / zero carbon fuels. This makes it one hell of a headache for manufacturers and fuel distribution networks alike and will be so costly to implement that ZEVs will look like the better option.