What's happened here then?

What's happened here then?

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RumbleOfThunder

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3,612 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Noticed this old vid on the news earlier, so sorry if already covered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-buck...

Very, very suspect, no? It seems he was adamant about writing that car off, even though he'd regained control after the initial "skid". Police pinning it on a space saver. I'm not having it.

tangerine_sedge

5,158 posts

225 months

Tuesday 11th June
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RumbleOfThunder said:
Noticed this old vid on the news earlier, so sorry if already covered.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-buck...

Very, very suspect, no? It seems he was adamant about writing that car off, even though he'd regained control after the initial "skid". Police pinning it on a space saver. I'm not having it.
It does look 'suspect', but I've never driven at > 40mph with a space-saver fitted, so it's possible that it caused unexpected behaviour when driving and braking at speed. My gut feeling is that the driver lost control before it entered the camera viewpoint, and the driver never really regained control.

dudleybloke

20,471 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Definitely a wheel problem.
The idiot behind the steering wheel.

RumbleOfThunder

Original Poster:

3,612 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th June
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tangerine_sedge said:
It does look 'suspect', but I've never driven at > 40mph with a space-saver fitted, so it's possible that it caused unexpected behaviour when driving and braking at speed. My gut feeling is that the driver lost control before it entered the camera viewpoint, and the driver never really regained control.
But he did regain control, this is the weird thing. He clearly catches it, the car is fully settled, then he starts sawing at the wheel again!

tangerine_sedge

5,158 posts

225 months

Tuesday 11th June
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RumbleOfThunder said:
tangerine_sedge said:
It does look 'suspect', but I've never driven at > 40mph with a space-saver fitted, so it's possible that it caused unexpected behaviour when driving and braking at speed. My gut feeling is that the driver lost control before it entered the camera viewpoint, and the driver never really regained control.
But he did regain control, this is the weird thing. He clearly catches it, the car is fully settled, then he starts sawing at the wheel again!
Having watched it again, I think you're right, he drives for a few seconds in a straight line, then suddenly starts swerving again. Was it road-rage to the camera car, then he lost control?

dudleybloke

20,471 posts

193 months

Tuesday 11th June
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tangerine_sedge said:
Having watched it again, I think you're right, he drives for a few seconds in a straight line, then suddenly starts swerving again. Was it road-rage to the camera car, then he lost control?
It does look like he cut in then brake checked the camera car.

Tenacious

220 posts

6 months

Tuesday 11th June
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dudleybloke said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Having watched it again, I think you're right, he drives for a few seconds in a straight line, then suddenly starts swerving again. Was it road-rage to the camera car, then he lost control?
It does look like he cut in then brake checked the camera car.
Yep.

vetrof

2,602 posts

180 months

Tuesday 11th June
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Looks like he tries to suddenly move to the centre lane then loses control due to the unpredictable levels of of grip due to the space saver.

Many years ago I (foolishly, but out of necessity) put a crossply spare tyre on the left side of the rear axle of a PB Velox while the other 3 were radials. It was quite an experience. When cornering to the right it felt like the crossply would lose grip but that the radial would 'catch' and cause a very similar type of motion as in the video, but at a much lower speed. My driving style was very conservative for the rest of that trip.

mac96

4,408 posts

150 months

Tuesday 11th June
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vetrof said:
Looks like he tries to suddenly move to the centre lane then loses control due to the unpredictable levels of of grip due to the space saver.

Many years ago I (foolishly, but out of necessity) put a crossply spare tyre on the left side of the rear axle of a PB Velox while the other 3 were radials. It was quite an experience. When cornering to the right it felt like the crossply would lose grip but that the radial would 'catch' and cause a very similar type of motion as in the video, but at a much lower speed. My driving style was very conservative for the rest of that trip.
You are bringing back memories! My first car would only understeer. Only way of getting the back to let go was the handbrake.
Then I put a crossply on the back offside wheel and created a car that understeered more or less as before when turning to the right, but produced ludicrous oversteer when turning left.

No more odd tyres after that!

Still, the guy in the video looks to be the idiot here. He has a tyre labelled as unsafe over 50mph, and not only is he going substantially faster, he is messing about as well.

Decky_Q

1,650 posts

184 months

Brake checking gone wrong, the initial swerve into the camera cars lane he's on 100% brakes and loses it.