Supercar theft - family traumatised (see link)

[JKS1234]

https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/bra...

Genuinely feel so bad for the family this has happened to (but WELL DONE! for fighting back), but just goes to show the world we live in. Yes, car thefts are common, but in majority of cases the car is taken without any entry into a home, or even if break in happens they just want the keys

These evil ****'s planned out not only to take the vehicles, but to traumatise an innocent family.

Damn sad, when you work hard for nice things and in the back of your mind fearing you may be the next target because some low life doesn't want to work hard themselves.

[Rough101]

As he had done it before, I’m lost interested in the pipeline wither we’re using as this is plainly part of a bigger operation, not easy to fence a Supercar unless you already have the connections.

[C70R]

JKS1234 said:

goes to show the world we live in.

What world is this?

[zsdom]

Rough101 said:

As he had done it before, I’m lost interested in the pipeline wither we’re using as this is plainly part of a bigger operation, not easy to fence a Supercar unless you already have the connections.

Come again?

[bad company]

Very well done the owners for fighting back.

[CG2020UK]

Awful ordeal.

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Would be nice of those sentences would have been double.

[NikBartlett]

Rough101 said:

As he had done it before, I’m lost interested in the pipeline wither we’re using as this is plainly part of a bigger operation, not easy to fence a Supercar unless you already have the connections.

They are just hired thugs, they'll have no idea of the network, just their immediate customer / handler. I'm surprised there are not more sting operations to catch these people. The criminal networks have shopping lists of vehicles to satisfy their customers abroad.

[Jimmy No Hands]

Far safer to just SOR at a dealer or sell to one - not sure I'd be accepting general public viewings on a £170k car at my home address. Sad state of the world really.

[C70R]

CG2020UK said:

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Yet car theft is currently nowhere near as bad as it was 20 years ago. In fact, you're less than half as likely to have your car nicked than you were 20 years ago.

We're you "put off from owning anything nice" 20 years ago?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303551/motor-v...

[donkmeister]

C70R said:

CG2020UK said:

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Yet car theft is currently nowhere near as bad as it was 20 years ago. In fact, you're less than half as likely to have your car nicked than you were 20 years ago.

We're you "put off from owning anything nice" 20 years ago?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303551/motor-v...

It's the type of theft though. Someone hot-wiring your car and having it away before you realise is very different from someone entering your home and potentially threatening you and your family for the keys.

Hence why those of us without delusions of stair domination store their keys where they are fairly visible once one has got inside the house.

[popeyewhite]

Private sale of very very expensive car goes wrong when thieves turn up with fake gun.

[raspy]

CG2020UK said:

Awful ordeal.

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Would be nice of those sentences would have been double.

Cars being stolen in England is so common? Really?

According to stats, 29.3 million cars registered in England/Wales as of September 2023.

In 2022/23, 130,521 car thefts in England/Wales.

Which means,

0.44% of cars in England/Wales were stolen in in 2022/23.

The data suggests that theft of cars in England/Wales is not as prevalent as you seem to perceive it.

[Baldchap]

raspy said:

CG2020UK said:

Awful ordeal.

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Would be nice of those sentences would have been double.

Cars being stolen in England is so common? Really?

According to stats, 29.3 million cars registered in England/Wales as of September 2023.

In 2022/23, 130,521 car thefts in England/Wales.

Which means,

0.44% of cars in England/Wales were stolen in in 2022/23.

The data suggests that theft of cars in England/Wales is not as prevalent as you seem to perceive it.

Call it half a percent and that's one in 200. That's actually more than I'd have expected. Wonder what the geographical breakdown looks like?

Poster earlier said SOR it at a dealer. I agree 100%. I don't want tyre kickers and test pilots coming to my house full stop. If you are selling £170k worth of Ferrari you can afford the minimal charges to do so.

[C70R]

donkmeister said:

C70R said:

CG2020UK said:

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Yet car theft is currently nowhere near as bad as it was 20 years ago. In fact, you're less than half as likely to have your car nicked than you were 20 years ago.

We're you "put off from owning anything nice" 20 years ago?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303551/motor-v...

It's the type of theft though. Someone hot-wiring your car and having it away before you realise is very different from someone entering your home and potentially threatening you and your family for the keys.

Hence why those of us without delusions of stair domination store their keys where they are fairly visible once one has got inside the house.

You'll have to tell that to my friend who was followed home and had his Sapphire Cosworth stolen from him at knifepoint in 2005.

This is just the usual 'everything is terrible these days' moan that happens every day on PH, blithely ignoring that the stuff was terrible in the past too.

If anything, the massive increase in technology-related car thefts mean that you're probably significantly less likely than ever to be a victim of violence.

[C70R]

raspy said:

CG2020UK said:

Awful ordeal.

Cars being stolen in England is so common it would put me off owning anything nice.

Would be nice of those sentences would have been double.

Cars being stolen in England is so common? Really?

According to stats, 29.3 million cars registered in England/Wales as of September 2023.

In 2022/23, 130,521 car thefts in England/Wales.

Which means,

0.44% of cars in England/Wales were stolen in in 2022/23.

The data suggests that theft of cars in England/Wales is not as prevalent as you seem to perceive it.

No no, you don't understand. Everything is terrible these days.

[Baldchap]

C70R said:

You'll have to tell that to my friend who was followed home and had his Sapphire Cosworth stolen from him at knifepoint in 2005.

This is just the usual 'everything is terrible these days' moan that happens every day on PH, blithely ignoring that the stuff was terrible in the past too.

If anything, the massive increase in technology-related car thefts mean that you're probably significantly less likely than ever to be a victim of violence.

Yep. I knew a chap who's wife (with baby in back) had an attempted carjacking whilst out in his brand new Evo. He got rid soon after.

A coworker's Escort Cosworth was genuinely out of his possession more than in across three years. Either the thieves, police or insurers had it more than he did. Eventually it was easier than get rid (and probably cheaper).

I don't know anyone recently who's had to get rid of a car because of crime.

[Skeptisk]

I seem to recall that hot hatches were killed off in the early nineties because of car crime making insurance too expensive, leading to “warm” hatches for a number of years.

[FMOB]

What an awful experience for the seller and their family, no idea how one would come to terms with that experience. As for the perpetrators, we don't need people like that so ship em somewhere nasty and remove their citizenship.

[CG2020UK]

C70R said:

Yet car theft is currently nowhere near as bad as it was 20 years ago. In fact, you're less than half as likely to have your car nicked than you were 20 years ago.

We're you "put off from owning anything nice" 20 years ago?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/303551/motor-v...

Well I would have been 8 if we are going back 20 years ago lol.

Just based on this forum and social media in comparison to N.I it seems car thefts are far more common. We also aren’t talking smicks stealing bangers for joyrides.

[Smint]

Blimey a judge with a bit of backbone re sentencing, and about time too.

The days of being able to invite strangers to your home are over and even pre aranged meets on neutral but public places are now dodgy, friends had a visit overnight to their garden just before Christmas resutling in theft, they had not given their address but arranged to meet somewhere close (he's switched on), the buyer didn't turn up but most likely someone watched and followed them home, theft same or following night.