Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035

Ban of sale of new petrol & diesel cars now back to 2035

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Carloss Fandango

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38 posts

58 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Richie Rich just announced that the date for stopping the sale of new petrol and diesel cars is now 2035 instead of 2030. He also said secondhand petrol and diesel cars will be allowed to be sold after 2035.

IIRC, it was originally 2035 until a former PM moved it to 2030. I don't recall which PM it was - we've had so many in the last few years, I've lost track who did what, tbh.

Personally, I will delay moving from petrol to electric as long as possible. I'm a bit of a dinosaur who prefers to drive on dino-juice.

Alex Z

1,506 posts

83 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Was there ever a suggestion that used fossil fuel cars *wouldn't* be able to be resold after 2030? That would be crazy.

Silvanus

6,019 posts

30 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Alex Z said:
Was there ever a suggestion that used fossil fuel cars *wouldn't* be able to be resold after 2030? That would be crazy.
No, but it makes for a good headline for those that will believe anything that is put in front of them without the need to think.

oldagepensioner

410 posts

35 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Carloss Fandango said:
Richie Rich just announced that the date for stopping the sale of new petrol and diesel cars is now 2035 instead of 2030. He also said secondhand petrol and diesel cars will be allowed to be sold after 2035.

IIRC, it was originally 2035 until a former PM moved it to 2030. I don't recall which PM it was - we've had so many in the last few years, I've lost track who did what, tbh.

Personally, I will delay moving from petrol to electric as long as possible. I'm a bit of a dinosaur who prefers to drive on dino-juice.
It was the blond buffoon but i don; t think banning the sale of secondhand combustion engined cars was ever on the cards.I think he just hoped they would fade away quickly.

Carloss Fandango

Original Poster:

38 posts

58 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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oldagepensioner said:
It was the blond buffoon but i don; t think banning the sale of secondhand combustion engined cars was ever on the cards.I think he just hoped they would fade away quickly.
No, I didn't believe the ban on selling new petrol/diesel cars was ever proposed to also apply to used cars. Presumably, Rishi included this in his announcement for the avoidance of doubt.

Meanwhile, Labour have promised to stick to 2030. So if they get in at the next election, we could see it reverting to 2030. Car manufacturers are getting irate and I don't blame them.

Pica-Pica

14,447 posts

91 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Carloss Fandango said:
oldagepensioner said:
It was the blond buffoon but i don; t think banning the sale of secondhand combustion engined cars was ever on the cards.I think he just hoped they would fade away quickly.
No, I didn't believe the ban on selling new petrol/diesel cars was ever proposed to also apply to used cars. Presumably, Rishi included this in his announcement for the avoidance of doubt.

Meanwhile, Labour have promised to stick to 2030. So if they get in at the next election, we could see it reverting to 2030. Car manufacturers are getting irate and I don't blame them.
The EU has 2035, so I don’t suppose car manufacturers are too irate.

CrgT16

2,109 posts

115 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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The green agenda will be costly. Like everything in the U.K. lacks proper planning and keeps changing goalposts. Inefficient approach. I am keeping my car for as long as I can.

Super Sonic

7,214 posts

61 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Desperate for votes.

jameswills

3,583 posts

50 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Labour aren’t rolling back on this, and they will be in charge next year, so it’s an utterly pointes and actually quite a clever announcement by Richi. Still gets what he wants, but hands it over to Kier to take the pain of it.


av185

19,411 posts

134 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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Wonder if Sunak will deem it ok to sell a third fourth or fifth hand used car after 2035 judge

LivLL

11,126 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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It's a neat trick, the EU have 2035 as their date anyway. Nothing really newsworthy about this announcement.

pingu393

9,029 posts

212 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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LivLL said:
It's a neat trick, the EU have 2035 as their date anyway. Nothing really newsworthy about this announcement.
I wonder if the companies who have announced plans to build electric cars in UK (BMW Mini for example) will stick to their plans? I imagine they were looking forward to lots of sales in the lead-up to 2030.

Five years of UK sales to reduce the pain of exporting to Europe has just gone out the window.

LivLL

11,126 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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People will still buy EV's, they're buying them in large numbers now over a decade away from the target date. Incentives are still there for company drivers to choose EV or petrol or diesel, that hasn't changed.

As I said, not really a big piece of news. What else was hiding behind this "big" announcement in plain sight?

abzmike

9,270 posts

113 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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jameswills said:
Labour aren’t rolling back on this, and they will be in charge next year, so it’s an utterly pointes and actually quite a clever announcement by Richi. Still gets what he wants, but hands it over to Kier to take the pain of it.
Perhaps the Conservatives should be asked by they chose to be out of step with the EU? Oh yes, to be pointlessly different.

LivLL

11,126 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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It's the same at the EU now isn't it. We were out of step before.

sixor8

6,594 posts

275 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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pingu393 said:
LivLL said:
It's a neat trick, the EU have 2035 as their date anyway. Nothing really newsworthy about this announcement.
I wonder if the companies who have announced plans to build electric cars in UK (BMW Mini for example) will stick to their plans? I imagine they were looking forward to lots of sales in the lead-up to 2030.

Five years of UK sales to reduce the pain of exporting to Europe has just gone out the window.
Hybrids (without an accepted minimum range) were allowed until 2035 previously, the 'meeja' in all their frothing completely misled the public over this. We're just inline with EU now, if EVs are so good, and cheap enough, they'll sell anyway. smile

RS_MAN_CHILD

290 posts

276 months

Wednesday 20th September 2023
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2035 will become 2050 eventually anyway!

Modern small ICE Petrol based engines with hybrid assist can produce immense power that's good enough for the next few decades! and they will not destroy the roads like EV currently are either!!

nutsyH

579 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Carloss Fandango said:
Richie Rich just announced that the date for stopping the sale of new petrol and diesel cars is now 2035 instead of 2030. He also said secondhand petrol and diesel cars will be allowed to be sold after 2035.

IIRC, it was originally 2035 until a former PM moved it to 2030. I don't recall which PM it was - we've had so many in the last few years, I've lost track who did what, tbh.

Personally, I will delay moving from petrol to electric as long as possible. I'm a bit of a dinosaur who prefers to drive on dino-juice.
It was Johnson, on the orders of Carrie

nutsyH

579 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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RS_MAN_CHILD said:
2035 will become 2050 eventually anyway!

Modern small ICE Petrol based engines with hybrid assist can produce immense power that's good enough for the next few decades! and they will not destroy the roads like EV currently are either!!
But the stupid rule re Hybrids was that they had to be "plug in" after 2030, regen charging was being banned.

nickwilcock

1,523 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st September 2023
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Well, at least cars with real engines will be available for a while longer!

For anyone who can afford the price of a new car, that is....