Ban on Hybrid Cars by 2040?

Ban on Hybrid Cars by 2040?

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Thomas Foreman

Original Poster:

25 posts

79 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/hybrid-cars-b...

Just found this article while having a browse online. What do you guys think? Is this a step in the right direction?

You'd think that if there were less hybrid cars in circulation that more people would feel inclined to purchase a petrol/diesel car...

Atomic12C

5,180 posts

224 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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There is also a stupid proposed ban of all internal combustion engines by 2040 isn't there?

Thomas Foreman

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25 posts

79 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Yep - it's a joke. Of course we all know of the environmental impact which is caused by co2 emissions. But seriously. 2040? Seems too soon to be making such a jump if you ask me.

Heartworm

1,932 posts

168 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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The headlines seem a little off on this to me, surely by 2040 a hybrid car should be getting 50 miles from electric charge

Thomas Foreman

Original Poster:

25 posts

79 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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You'd hope they'll be getting more than 50 miles by 2040!

Nonetheless, you can bet your life I'll be purchasing a hybrid car within the next few years and keeping it hidden away in my garage until long after 2040 if this silly ban comes through as early as they say. Imagine that! The last of its kind.

Look out for me on antiques roadshow in 2054.

InitialDave

12,223 posts

126 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Aren't the waters deliberately being muddied here?

My understanding was that they would ban the sale of new cars powered only by internal combustion engines, so only EVs and hybrids would be allowed.

Now they're saying that the hybrids would need to have a 50 mile electric only range, to avoid nominally "hybrid" cheats by manufacturers.

I'd expect the pace of development to easily meet that requirement, so not sure there's much need for a fuss.

Heartworm

1,932 posts

168 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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InitialDave said:
Aren't the waters deliberately being muddied here?

My understanding was that they would ban the sale of new cars powered only by internal combustion engines, so only EVs and hybrids would be allowed.

Now they're saying that the hybrids would need to have a 50 mile electric only range, to avoid nominally "hybrid" cheats by manufacturers.

I'd expect the pace of development to easily meet that requirement, so not sure there's much need for a fuss.
That's my thoughts, but the press do like to make a fuss, we are talking 22 years away, look at an electric car from 1996, if we see half that increase in performance we are onto a winner.

BG and The Bear

123 posts

149 months

Tuesday 8th May 2018
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Any techie types here who understand these things?

How much electricity will we need to generate to power every car, van, bus and truck on the road. Is it even possible to produce that much?

Technology is getting better, but unless an EV can recharge for a 400 mile trip in the time it currently takes to squirt in 60ltrs of fuel, can electric power ever replace petrol.

Jonny_

4,288 posts

214 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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This story has been a shining example of how the British public are misled by badly written, sensationalist headlines in the media.

From 2040 onward all new cars sold in the UK must be capable of travelling at least 50 miles on electric power.

That doesn't mean petrol or diesel or hybrid cars can't be sold, they just have to include the means to travel 50 miles on electric power (i.e. a plug in hybrid with sufficient battery capacity).

Existing cars with less or no electric range won't be banned from use - this only applies to new vehicles sold from 2040 onward. Whether or not taxation will be used to "encourage" (OK, coerce) drivers out of older ICE-powered cars and into newer electrified ones - well, that's another matter.

I suspect that by 2040, electric or hybrid cars with notably longer ranges than today's offerings will be commonplace anyway.

CABC

5,787 posts

108 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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it's known as signalling.

MarkwG

5,092 posts

196 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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CABC said:
it's known as signalling.
or bull sh!t...

Vipers

33,112 posts

235 months

Friday 11th May 2018
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At times it's good being mature, when all this crap comes in to force, won't bother me.

CarKing

57 posts

77 months

Saturday 9th June 2018
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Where air pollution is concerned, people will turn their heads, whether that plan is realistic or not remains to be seen...

julianm

1,590 posts

208 months

Monday 18th June 2018
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LONDON (Reuters) - London Mayor Sadiq Khan and other city leaders from across Britain said on Monday a government plan to ban the sale of new diesel and petrol cars should be brought forward by 10 years to 2030, in the latest push to improve air quality.

Javelinman

6 posts

90 months

Wednesday 20th June 2018
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What a load of Tosh
So it's all the cars fault then . Not lorries or other vehichkes etc
So how is electricity produced hmm Lithium mining , power stations from abroad where we buy our electricity
So I have a number of cars with big V8 petrol engines so do I convert them to LPG oh no that would be Hybrid scary !!!
This is all a government thing to tie us down to electric cars where they can control the price away from the Oil producers
Question by then my car will be 60 years old or more so rather than having to have a new battery very 5-7 years and recycling your plastic people carrier
My metal one will still be going
underground storage tanks full of petrol may be a good investment but they now add additives so we can't even do that
Beam me up scotty