200 VI 2 litre??

200 VI 2 litre??

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buster-bill

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197 months

Friday 4th July 2008
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I have looked on the web, but to no joy.

There is a Rover 200 on ebay claiming to be a 200 VI, but with a 2 litre engine. It also says only 50 were distributed.

Is this for real, or just a conversion someone has done?

It has VVC written on the above the cam cover on what looks like a foam air cleaner, but they didn't do a 2.0 VVC engine did they?

AL...Ease

2,679 posts

225 months

Friday 4th July 2008
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No, they didn't. The largest capacity you can get out of a 4-pot K series is 1.9 and Rover never made any as standard. I don't know where the seller got the idea that it's a special 2.0 model, I've never heard of one, let alone a VVC 2.0, maybe I'm wrong, but I think they've been lied to.

buster-bill

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197 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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I think it is a M series (?? - from a 220 coupe/GTi/820 etc), as the logbook photo shows it as 1994cc Petrol.

It has a VVC airbox (behind the cam cover, with air filter connected), but presumably that would fit and certainly doesn't constitute VVC!

They reckon only 50 were distributed and quote 180bhp and 0-60 in 6 ish seconds.

It all sounds wierd, but is probably just a 200Vi with M16 engine plopped in.

AL...Ease

2,679 posts

225 months

Monday 7th July 2008
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Nah, it's definitely a K series VVC, the inlet plenum won't fit an M or T series, but it also looks like a K series. If you see the silver lump attached to the top left of the head; that's what runs the VVC mechanism.

I suspect it's an error on the log book and a story has been made up as to why it might not be a 1.8.

Platinum

2,101 posts

230 months

Sunday 10th August 2008
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Unless someone has put in the 2 litre K series as used in the Caterham R500 Evo.

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

237 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I saw the very same eBay advert, just by looking at the engine in the pics I can tell you it's nothing special! Definiately a 1.8 VVC. Either the guy thinks it is a 2 litre (having been lied to by someone else) or he is trying to lie himself. I suspect the former smile

buster-bill

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197 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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He had copied in pics of the V5 - 1994cc

AL...Ease

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225 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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That doesn't mean that it's a two litre.

buster-bill

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197 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Well it seems to suggest that the vehicle was registered with a 1994cc engine in it (probably the M-series as used in 220/420/620/820).

It doesn't mean that that engine was still in it, or that the 1994cc engine was VVC.

I thought it looked much the same as any other 1.8 VVC motor, hence I asked if there had been any 2.0 VVCs - the ebay ad mentioned that only a few of them were ever made.

It's long gone now and the mystery may be left unsolved - I wont be able to but this, potentially a secret Rover test vehicle with a sneaky 180bhp 2.0 VVC (hmmm...)

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

237 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2008
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M series was only used up until '92 AFAIK. The T series took its place, so there's no way it'll be an M. T was never fitted into that shape 200, but was used in the 2 litre mk2 400.

Only engines the mk3 200 had was K series (1.4 8v, 1.4 16v, 1.6, 1.8 and 1.8 VVC) and the L series diesel.

Just because the V5 says something is so, doesn't make it so. If it was some secret test engine, I'll eat my hat, shoes and cheesy socks as in all my days in the Rover scene I have never heard of a 2 litre K series which made it into a production car. the only one is/was the Judd version which (as far as I remember) doesn't really resemble a 'normal' K series at all.

smile

buster-bill

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197 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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i'm not that knowledgable (does it show), but I suspected that as he listed it as "one of only 50 made", he was either:

Talking rubbish and it was "just" a Vi
Had put a 2 litre lump from 820/220/420 (corrected as to them being T-series not M)
Or a mix of all of that and more. And quite right, V5 stating 1994 doesn't mean it still is, but suggests that it once was.

I was also trying to ascertain if anyone knew of 2 litre VVC and the answer seems to be a resounding no. so it is a weird one. But also a sold one, so someone else will now be perpetuating the half truth to their mates in the pub!

AL...Ease

2,679 posts

225 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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I am 100% certain that the engine in the photos on the listing was a VVC, definitely not an M or T series.