L808EOB

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supermono

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7,374 posts

254 months

Wednesday 27th February 2008
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My old 420 turbo sold a few years back for notmuch as a project. When I was using it daily it was sensational but retired due to ill health.

Last seen driving from my house in convoy with another one heading towards Essex if I recall.

Any news? I'd love to know...

SM

restoman

947 posts

214 months

Saturday 8th March 2008
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According to the DVLA the car is still in use and is taxed until 31st October 2008.

Enquiry details below:-

The enquiry is complete

The vehicle details for L808 EOB are:

Date of Liability 01 11 2008
Date of First Registration 15 12 1993
Year of Manufacture 1993
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1994CC
CO2 Emissions Not Available
Fuel Type Petrol
Export Marker Not Applicable
Vehicle Status Licence Not Due
Vehicle Colour GREY
Vehicle Type Approval null
The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry.
Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle
6 Months Rate £99.00
12 Months Rate £180.00

tali1

5,270 posts

207 months

Saturday 8th March 2008
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3 previous owners Last keeper change was 24.04.2005
Nice number plate

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Yup - my friend Pete still owns it and it's now running 250bhp smile

We always recount the day we came to look and at collect it from you. It had been living under your tree and was green instead of charcoal grey! We were dead impressed that it started up on the button after 3 yrs standing and that the oil was so clean.

If you want any more info on it, just ask smile

Pete posts on here as "Fordo" and also on rovertech.net as "Fordimus Prime" (I post on there as Leo)

You'll find quite a few pics of L808EOB (or Bobby Bob has it has become known) on RT... here it is late last year:



I'll let Pete know about this thread, I'm sure he'll be happy to elaborate further thumbup

p.s. you were mental to let it go for £notmuch wink

Edited by LeoZwalf on Thursday 10th April 12:26

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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LeoZwalf said:
p.s. you were mental to let it go for £notmuch wink
Not really -- I was planning to get shot forever and the gearbox was broken. I was pleased a)to get rid and b)to someone who'd do something like -- oh I don't know -- tune it to 250bhp and have a load of fun in the old girl.

Nice one. Thanks for the update!

SM

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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LeoZwalf said:
We were dead impressed that it started up on the button after 3 yrs standing and that the oil was so clean.
Well I always looked after it mechanically with regular oil changes and the engine was always really strong so the oil/starting thing was not a total surprise. But I have some questions:

1. What sort of power was it making before you started meddling with it? It seemed quite quick was it the factory 200 or anywhere near?
2. That gearbox. Was it even the right one? It always seemed short geared to me and the big speedo error made me wonder more -- IIRC it used to regularly go round to the pin on the speedo at what seemed like considerably under 150. It'd already had a replacement before I bought it and when I sold it that one was toast.
3. When you left in convoy that day, I drove out a couple of minutes later and saw you all heading back towards my house. Did you get lost or were you after a refund? When I got back there was no sign of you -- I half expected you'd become disgruntled with the deal and expected to see the car back under the tree and a turd in my letterbox lol.

SM

Fordo

1,547 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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supermono said:
LeoZwalf said:
We were dead impressed that it started up on the button after 3 yrs standing and that the oil was so clean.
Well I always looked after it mechanically with regular oil changes and the engine was always really strong so the oil/starting thing was not a total surprise. But I have some questions:

1. What sort of power was it making before you started meddling with it? It seemed quite quick was it the factory 200 or anywhere near?
2. That gearbox. Was it even the right one? It always seemed short geared to me and the big speedo error made me wonder more -- IIRC it used to regularly go round to the pin on the speedo at what seemed like considerably under 150. It'd already had a replacement before I bought it and when I sold it that one was toast.
3. When you left in convoy that day, I drove out a couple of minutes later and saw you all heading back towards my house. Did you get lost or were you after a refund? When I got back there was no sign of you -- I half expected you'd become disgruntled with the deal and expected to see the car back under the tree and a turd in my letterbox lol.

SM
Hi there!

I found your email address a few weeks ago, on the receipt you wrote for me when i bought it- Id been meaning to write you an email for ages and let you know how the old girl is going!

Ive always thought this car has an unusually strong engine- probably testament to how well you looked after it.

1. I had it rolling roaded a few months later after purchase- it had blowing exhaust, still had the cat on, and the only thing changed was the boost controller- id replaced it with a mechanical ball and spring type. I kept the boost at the stock 11.5 though.
And it made 197.5 bhp (which is the exact book figure!), and torque was up on standard. (thanks to the mechanical boost controller letting it hit 11 psi a lot earlier in the rev range.

I was quite impressed with that result.

Since, I've always gone back to the same RR, at the same time of year, to try and keep results a bit consistent.

It made 217 bhp and 230lbft a year later, with a larger bore stainless exhaust, decat, and a very very nicely made custom downpipe and turbo elbow- much more free flowing than the standard elbow (dropped boost threshold significantly too). Also had a better air filter, pulsar intercooler in the bottom of the bumper, and was on 12 psi.

A year later than that, it made 250 bhp and 230lbft, the major change being the addition of a pulsar t28 turbo. A little more laggy, but it really pulls a lot stronger.

I'll see if I can dig the RR graphs out later.

The car's now done over 130,000 miles and going strong- The car has been ultra reliable. Id say its the best car I've owned.

2. The box was wrong for the car- it was from a 420 or 220 non turbo- it had an open diff inside, and as you say, was shorter geared. I ended up driving that car for a year with that noisey gearbox! I had a spare box from a nasp, but wanted an OE turbo box with the torsen diff. Eventually i found a box that had been rebuilt with steel caged bearings, so would be a little stronger. Turned out that box was from a 620ti, so the car is still a little short geared

3. I think we'd just got lost!
I drove very carefully for the first 20 mins, but when we got to a nice straight stretch, i couldnt resist putting my foot down- and i showered leo's car behind, in a cloud of orange rust particles from the exhaust!

Its been such a great car- Ive had to spend a bit here and there to tidy it up- (usually upgrading as I go)

Edited by Fordo on Thursday 10th April 15:53

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Brilliant update, thanks. I'm really made up that the car's continued to deliver the goods. I used it daily for a good couple of years and it only let me down when the radiator sprang a leak so I'm glad it continues on nicely. Oh it spat a bit of head gasket too but that was all. A lot of my time was spent around Basingstoke at the time and those d/c roundabout sections were just like a race track in it.

It always had mobil 1 oil IIRC and regularly changed too, long journeys, never thrashed when warm, obviously simple and effective for making the mechanicals

PM me if you fancy -- I'd like to meet up and see it again.

Cheers bud,
SM

Fordo

1,547 posts

230 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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supermono said:
Brilliant update, thanks. I'm really made up that the car's continued to deliver the goods. I used it daily for a good couple of years and it only let me down when the radiator sprang a leak so I'm glad it continues on nicely. Oh it spat a bit of head gasket too but that was all. A lot of my time was spent around Basingstoke at the time and those d/c roundabout sections were just like a race track in it.

It always had mobil 1 oil IIRC and regularly changed too, long journeys, never thrashed when warm, obviously simple and effective for making the mechanicals

PM me if you fancy -- I'd like to meet up and see it again.

Cheers bud,
SM
funny you should mention basingstoke- The rolling road i go to is down there! Some great roads in that area.

supermono said:
It always had mobil 1 oil IIRC and regularly changed too, long journeys, never thrashed when warm, obviously simple and effective for making the mechanicals
I've always subscribed to the same philosphy. I probably change the oil almost too regularly! But want to keep the old girl in top shape

i'll drop you my details in a PM- would be cool to meet up when the weathers a bit nicer

LeoZwalf

2,802 posts

236 months

Thursday 10th April 2008
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Ohhhhh I feel so warm and happy inside!

I actually laughed (out loud... that'd be a real LOL then) at the thought that we were coming back for a refund! If anything we'd have been coming back to give you MORE money!

That 'box you thought was dead...... far from it. So so soooo many Rovers are sold/spunked money on/scrapped because of that gearbox noise. In fact it's the input shaft which is noisy - no problem. as Fordo said, he drove on that 'box for AGES and it never gave out. The thing you have to be careful of is the diff bearings quitting. They are plastic caged and with incraesed power/torque don't take much to go BOOM. Annoyingly (or charictaristically) they show no audiable signs of busting - only tell tale is a wobbly speedo. Next thing you know, there's no drive! (Exactly this happened to my 420t)

To think that car would probably have been scrapped had Fordo not bought it really makes me cry. This is green, eco-friendly re-cycling at its very best.

With some Koni's and poly bushes, L808EOB would p*ss on my car. Mine has all the brake and engine mods which EOB has, except mine has Koni yellows and poly bushes everywhere. EOB has 250hp though... mine has <only> 235...

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Holy Thread Resurrection, Batman...

Any news on the old girl anyone?

SM

Rich1973

1,208 posts

183 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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No details with DVLA. Gone onto a private plate?

Mike200t

3 posts

131 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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I've only joined up to give you a little info. A friend of mine owned it after fordimus and unfortunately the car has been scrapped some time ago. I have pictures somewhere but I'm not sure you'd like to see them!

Regards

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Mike200t said:
I've only joined up to give you a little info. A friend of mine owned it after fordimus and unfortunately the car has been scrapped some time ago. I have pictures somewhere but I'm not sure you'd like to see them!

Regards
Oh no! Please share however, I'll be a man about it smile

Thanks massively for the effort BtW!

SM

Mike200t

3 posts

131 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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Give me a few minutes, I think I still have pictures somewhere on the other computer.

Unfortunately, given how long ago it was I can't remember if it was the 420 or the 220 he purchased that landed up being taken back to pasty land (cornwall) on an AA truck. One of them spat its driveshaft out.

Will edit this in a minute :


Mike200t

3 posts

131 months

Friday 15th November 2013
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By the looks of it, alex purchased the car in June of 2008. The car at this point had 130,000 miles on the clock. He drove the car until April of 2009 by the looks of the chassis pictures and then broke it.

The reason for breaking the car was unfortunately pointless but something went wrong with it very shortly after something major went wrong. I believe it may have been bottom end issues as the only two photos I have in its pulled apart state the bottom end is sat on the floor. If the head was good I guess he must have sold it. (Just looked at old rovertech threads and there is indeed a head up for sale, with a thread dated just prior although this could have been from the 220 gti turbo he had after.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5205/37o2.jpg

I believe from the above picture we had just changed the head, but honestly as it was five years ago now I really cannot remember for the life of me

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/8136/tald.JPG

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1084/cfpx.jpg

Sorry the car is now dead mate, it was a cracking car and whilst I don't speak to him anymore he does to this day, regret breaking it.

supermono

Original Poster:

7,374 posts

254 months

Saturday 16th November 2013
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Shame thanks for the info smile so the head goes on which is funny.

Great car that I really enjoyed it.

SM