Repairable??
Repairable??
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maranellouk

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2,066 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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www.qualitysalvage.net/viewcar.asp?CarID=510

Do-able? Not knowing how much the repair bill would be of course.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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maranellouk said:
www.qualitysalvage.net/viewcar.asp?CarID=510

Do-able? Not knowing how much the repair bill would be of course.

Would say it was repairable. Not sure as to the merits of doing it, taking into account final resale value of an ex-write-off, etc.

maranellouk

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2,066 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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Cheers, just wondering. Have absolutely no patience to undertake any project like this in any way.

Mate, tell me again how good the Tuscan is. For some stange reason I am swinging towards getting the Cerb first and adding the Tuscan to the flock around Sept/Oct. Too much time looking at the same models me thinks. Rather suprisingly it's a yellow Cerb that has caught my eye.

Help!

J_S_G

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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Looking at their stock list, I'd be more tempted by the Elise 111s.

maranellouk

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2,066 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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J_S_G said:
Looking at their stock list, I'd be more tempted by the Elise 111s.

....and your current motor? Seeing as you've had two of the cars I am after you've got impart a little wisdom. I don't think I can look at another ad today without losing it completely.

Help.

J_S_G

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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maranellouk said:
Cheers, just wondering. Have absolutely no patience to undertake any project like this in any way.

Mate, tell me again how good the Tuscan is. For some stange reason I am swinging towards getting the Cerb first and adding the Tuscan to the flock around Sept/Oct. Too much time looking at the same models me thinks. Rather suprisingly it's a yellow Cerb that has caught my eye.

1. It has to be blue.

2. Cerb vs. Tuscan... I'm going to be writing a looooong comparison of these two babies up after I've had the Nitrons fitted to the Tuscan & time to really get to grips with it. Given that I've only just got it, and it's a RR, here's a quick rundown, though:

Cerbera is a more civilized car; it feels more firmly planted on the road. Tuscan seems a lot more unruly - I don't trust the back end on it as much, but it's a lot more fun, and should handle better once it's sorted. Performance wise, the Tuscan RR is much quicker. Probably wouldn't be that much in it if I kept them both at optimum revs, but the pickup on the Tuscan is fantastic. The back-end issues of the Tuscan are at least in part to do with the lumpy running I've got (and partially cured) at the moment.

Contrary to what most people say, so far my Cerbera is the one I'd rather be stuck in traffic/around town with. Again, that's partly to do with needing a bit of time to bring the Tuscan totally up to spec.

It's an interesting call over which to get first. I'd just decide whether I wanted a proper sports car or a GT first, I guess, rather than "Cerb" or "Tuscan" when you start bringing V8 vs S6, etc into it.

Anyway, back to your request: The Tuscan's fantastic... I had a Honda Civic Type R pull up alongside me on the way home tonight with some dolled up peroxide blonde wearing very little in the passengers seat. I noticed her eyeing my car up, and the Civic's driver noticed me eyeing her up. This was at a set of traffic lights just before the slip road onto the M1. Do I really need to finish this story... we all know what's about to happen???

So, I matched his throttle onto the slip road, then geeeeently backed off a bit letting him slooooooooowly ease in front. Then I got bored and floored it in second at 50. And third. And fourth. All the time watching him lean further and further forwards in his seat, 'cos we all know that makes a car go faster. After I'd rejoined the standard space-time continuum a couple of miles down the road, I trundled along at 65 in the inside lane, and got a lovely smile from his girlfriend as they drove past. I'm not very good at lipreading or street-speak, but I'm assuming his mouthing "cooking tanker" at me is a compliment!?!

J_S_G

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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One other thing... It's coming up to summer, and that's when a Tuscan'll beat a Cerb hands down. Even if you're just idling along at 30mph (yeah, right!) it's better with the roof off when it's sunny. Cerb gets lovely and toasty warm in the winter, though.

maranellouk

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2,066 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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Cheers for that. The attempted racing stories at traffic lights are always sweet.

Forgot to mentionthat the car I am buying in the next few weeks will be spending most of it's time in Miami. Bar various trips to anywhere for no reason of course. Probably makes the choice a little easier when I stop and think about it. The Cerb will be staying mainly in NYC but if I bought it first(which is seeming more unlikely with every word I type) it would spend the intial 6-7 months in Miami.

As I'm sure you know, Miami isn't the coldest place all year round I always thought the Cerb seemed the more.....cosy of the two. It looks really snug in the driver's seat. It gives the feeling of the car being wrapped around you. Not sure if this is a fair description though as I have only been in the wrong seat and that was a long time ago.

I think it will be alot easier when I get back and get all touchy-feely with the cars. Seeing them on paper is as useful as Tony Blair.

powerlord

771 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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that came up with a renault when I tried it.

Did find this one last week though

www.findit.co.uk/cars/tvr/1122624.htm


loved the description of:

"VERY LIGHT FRONT DAMEGE"

light ?

spelling ?

but you have the knowledge to repair the thing....uhu.

j_s_g

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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powerlord said:
that came up with a renault when I tried it.

Did find this one last week though

www.findit.co.uk/cars/tvr/1122624.htm


loved the description of:

"VERY LIGHT FRONT DAMEGE"

light ?

spelling ?

but you have the knowledge to repair the thing....uhu.

I think that looks a lot worse than it actually is... all the mechanics are from the oil-filler, etc. backwards. Does just look like it needs a new GRP frontend. I'd say that it was 2-3k overpriced for its current condition, though. I'd expect to pay £17.5k full repaired & inspected.

j_s_g

6,177 posts

266 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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maranellouk said:
Cheers for that. The attempted racing stories at traffic lights are always sweet.

Forgot to mentionthat the car I am buying in the next few weeks will be spending most of it's time in Miami. Bar various trips to anywhere for no reason of course. Probably makes the choice a little easier when I stop and think about it. The Cerb will be staying mainly in NYC but if I bought it first(which is seeming more unlikely with every word I type) it would spend the intial 6-7 months in Miami.

As I'm sure you know, Miami isn't the coldest place all year round I always thought the Cerb seemed the more.....cosy of the two. It looks really snug in the driver's seat. It gives the feeling of the car being wrapped around you. Not sure if this is a fair description though as I have only been in the wrong seat and that was a long time ago.

I think it will be alot easier when I get back and get all touchy-feely with the cars. Seeing them on paper is as useful as Tony Blair.

The Cerb definitely does feel more like a cosy cocoon for the driver. Not so great for the passengers, though.

Naith

92 posts

292 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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That has got to be one of the funniest racing anecdotes I've read in a very long time.

Maranello, it'll be pretty hard getting the Tuscan into the States, if that's your plan, as it doesn't meet their minimum safety requirements.

There are certain shenanigans you can pull to get around it, like this one guy who had the car disassembled and imported to North America in parts, and then had it reassembled over there.

I'm sure there's a TVR in the USA forum here it might benefit you to have a look at.

ec1 eex

400 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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I'm sure I read about the possibility of getting a "passport" for your car such that you can have it in the states for up to 12 months (but you'll have to send it back at the end of the 12 months). On this passport, you don't have to satisfy the US test results.

I didn't get around to looking into how much it would cost me to send it over to California such that I could use it for a few weeks whilst on holiday.

Bookmark I have for the importation of cars to the US is:
www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import

maranellouk

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2,066 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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Don't worry boys. All of that is taken care of. It's just a matter of coming home to Blighty, buying the thing, getting it down to the shipping company and finally finding something distracting to do for 12 days while the car floats it way over the pond.

The U.S/Costa Rican shipping broker who is taking care of everything this end actually subscribes to the TVR news letter. How weird is that? He almost fell off of his chair when I said I would be bring a TVR over for a bit.

TUS 373

4,946 posts

297 months

Thursday 8th April 2004
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Wow! What a fantastic thing to do, a Tuscan in the USA. Big roads, great weather, cheap fuel. Just have to keep an eye out for the "Smokies", but then if you are in a remote area and have a radar detector...may be not too much of a concern.

I remember stopping overnight in Fort Lauderdale once and saw several open top Ferraris blasting around in the warm summer evenings. Fantastic.

ec1 eex

400 posts

258 months

Saturday 10th April 2004
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maranellouk said:
The U.S/Costa Rican shipping broker who is taking care of everything this end actually subscribes to the TVR news letter. How weird is that? He almost fell off of his chair when I said I would be bring a TVR over for a bit.


Do you mind letting us know a ballpark figure of what it's costing you to get your car over to Florida?
Are you using the "showcar" loophole to get it ashore?

dai capp

1,641 posts

276 months

Saturday 10th April 2004
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JSG, interesting thoughts...

I've had both - two 4.0 Tuscans and one 4.5 Cerbera.

The Cerbera handles better, I had the suspension on both my Tuscs looked at and the first one always felt like it wanted to spit you into a ditch and the second one whilst much better felt a little twitchy when being really pushed. The Cerbie however feels totally planted and without doubt my diving ability will run out before the Cerbies grip!

Performance wise, my first Tusc was the fastest of all, being dyno'd at 380BHP, but a constant and incurable misfire was seemingly the penalty to pay so it had to go. The Cerbie is definately faster than my second Tuscan and now revs eagerly following a decat which is something that the Tuscan was excellent at - it revved so freely.

Looks wise well you pay your money and take your choice...





Both cars get admiring looks, the noise of the Cerbera however gets far more attention (it puts out 119.8Db at 4,000 RPM 1 meter behind the car) and it sounds like it should be on the grid at motor racing events, not in the car park.

Both cars have excellent storage. Mrs DC and I toured Europe last summer in the Tuscan and fitted everything we needed for 2 weeks in the boot with no drama, and the roof still went in (just). I've yet to experience a summer in the Cerbera but I'm not sure I'll miss the roof off bit that much.

Reliability is the old thorny issue that crops up. So far my Cerbie has never let me down. My first Tusc spent 4 of it's six months either back at the dealer or the factory. All for the misfire. My second Tuscan threw a piston through the block in Italy due to a conrod failure after 2 months of ownership. This issue was dealt with by my dealer with the highest degree of professionalism, and the outcome was the Cerbie I have now.

The future - well I don't care really, if I was offered a 2003/2004 Tuscan at a price I could live with I'd be extremely tempted. The engine probs seem resolved now so you get a mind blowing carwith some peace of mind. If I could I'd have both in the garage because I honestly couldn't imagine not climbing into my Cerbera and not having shivers sent down my spine every time I start it and every time I press the loud pedal with any urgency.

Hope this give a little more food for thought - whichever you go for you'll enjoy I'm sure, but then looking at what already lurks in your garage neither will be a performance revelation!

All the best

DC

cacatous

3,169 posts

289 months

Saturday 10th April 2004
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Well out of the two I would go back to my Tuscan.

I loved the handling! The Cerbera is a little more sure footed due to the longer wheelbase and the Tuscan could do with some decent suspension but it feels a lot quicker and I prefer the sound!

The roof off and back screen out was magical and it was a bit roomier for driver and passenger.


I also have a fully decatted Cerb but it doesn't give me the same buzz that the Tuscan did I'm afraid but that's why TVR make such a range.


I never had any issues with the Tuscan either.

So there it is.. TUSCAN, TUSCAN, TUSCAN!!