Err, I guess I should have expected this.....
Err, I guess I should have expected this.....
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simon t

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2,154 posts

288 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Part ex'd my Lovely Griff for a 2000 Tuscan (Love at first sight) from an Dealer last Tuesday. 400 miles later I find Its got a 3 ltr thirst for Castrol's finest (and most expensive)

Did some checking on the forum and it sounds like I've bought a car that needs an engine rebuild - rings/valve guides

So what do I do - I have a warrenty holdings warrenty but for £1000 per cliam.


Should I ask for the money back or get it fixed......?

Simon

oxbow

567 posts

265 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Get dealer to put prob rite or defo ask for ure money back an go else where.

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

273 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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simon t said:
Part ex'd my Lovely Griff for a 2000 Tuscan (Love at first sight) from an Dealer last Tuesday. 400 miles later I find Its got a 3 ltr thirst for Castrol's finest (and most expensive)

Did some checking on the forum and it sounds like I've bought a car that needs an engine rebuild - rings/valve guides

So what do I do - I have a warrenty holdings warrenty but for £1000 per cliam.


Should I ask for the money back or get it fixed......?

Simon


Simon, make sure you are checking the oil properly, otherwise you will overfill the car.

The way to do it is get the car to runing temp and as soon as you turn the engine off check the oil.

Best way to do it is undo the dipstick with the engine running turn the car off quickly pull the dipstick out wipe it, reinsert and then take the reading. If you leave it too long the oil drains to the collection chamber and you get a false reading then top the thing up with 3 ltrs by mistake...

simon t

Original Poster:

2,154 posts

288 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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How I hope you are right.......

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

273 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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simon t said:
How I hope you are right.......


It is a knack to get the right reading but if you going you will overfill the car. If in doubt call the dealer and state your concerns now rather than later...

T88CAN

3,474 posts

272 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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simon t said:
How I hope you are right.......


What Gary is saying is right about checking the level, however even if you have been checking it wrong 3ltrs seen rather excessive to me , mine eventually went to 250miles per ltr before, having some "upgrades",

take it back to your dealer and get them to sort it out, in my experience WH will not wont to know unfortunatly,down to the dealer Oh
Good luck Tony

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Nice euphamism there, Tony - upgrades?

T88CAN

3,474 posts

272 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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jigs said:
Nice euphamism there, Tony - upgrades?


Got mine back today with 2004 spec engine upgrade thanks for asking

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 20th March 2004
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Hope it's well sorted for you.

apache

39,731 posts

299 months

Sunday 21st March 2004
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Surely if the car has 'history' then you can stop beating yourself up about checking the oil properly. Get the fecker back to the dealer pronto

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

273 months

Sunday 21st March 2004
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T88CAN said:


jigs said:
Nice euphamism there, Tony - upgrades?




Got mine back today with 2004 spec engine upgrade thanks for asking



Hi Tony

Glad to hear you got your car back. It will run like a dream after you have run it in. I have had no probs with mine since.

Also have you noticed that the Tuscan forum is not full of " my engine has blown up" type threads... This is great news for the Speed 6 as I recon the engines are now sorted, and the "upgraded ones" are sorted too.

Happy motoring

Gary

>> Edited by Mr Freefall on Sunday 21st March 13:18

plipton

1,302 posts

273 months

Sunday 21st March 2004
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As mentioned on here check the level with the engine hot.

If it really is burning that much oil it must be smoking badly. If there's no noticable smoke then chances are you just need to familiarise yourself with the level checking procedure.

jamessim

497 posts

275 months

Sunday 21st March 2004
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Oh S**t,
I've always checked and topped mines up when necessary, whilst in the garage, "cold", I thought, that there must have been a misprint in the manual? who in their right mind asks you to take caps off when the engine is hot! anyway, luckily enough the cars not like it's master, and doesn't seem to drink too much. Thanks people for the lesson on what should be done I will have to have a think about this one as my driveway has @ a 25degree reverse slope although the garage is level.

Best Regards,

James Sim.

salty-nlv

438 posts

274 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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Gary, the reason the forum is now no longer full of my engine has blown up threads is that most are discussed on the TVR groups on yahoo.

I don't wish to say anymore but engines ARE still going tits up..

I think myself and T88CAN are competing for most rebuilds ever!!!

Plotloss

67,280 posts

285 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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You should have a 3 month warranty if it was bought from a dealer.

Doubt they will do anything on the back of an oil thirst thought, there needs to be a proper fault if you see what I mean.

Take that as you will

ghosty o'shark

184 posts

275 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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A couple of thoughts from my experience...

1. All S6 engines that are pre 2002 will need a rebuild at one time or another due to faulty parts. This was true of mine and everyone else I personally know who has one. Symptoms are the usual, blue/white smoke and excessive oil loss, upto 1 litre per 200 miles is extreme cases.

2. The reason that there are not mutliple engine failure threads is everytime someone posts one he/she gets nailed by all the S6 owners who's engines are either new and don't have the failings of the early cars or haven't have theirs go pop yet.

Call me a sceptic but time will tell. BTW mine has recently completed it's 1000 mile run in since the engine was rebuilt and it's running like a dream.

If I was to buy an S6 again I would look for either a post 2003 model or a rebuilt earlier one.

gr4eme

204 posts

292 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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Hi

for whats its worth mine has the same problem, dealer changed it onto mineral oil,in the hop that would cure it, but no difference, The car is now at TVR power, my problem looks to be a blown piston ring, I'm hoping its not expensive and WH will cough up.

plipton

1,302 posts

273 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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jamessim said:
Oh S**t,
I've always checked and topped mines up when necessary, whilst in the garage, "cold", I thought, that there must have been a misprint in the manual? who in their right mind asks you to take caps off when the engine is hot! anyway, luckily enough the cars not like it's master, and doesn't seem to drink too much. Thanks people for the lesson on what should be done I will have to have a think about this one as my driveway has @ a 25degree reverse slope although the garage is level.

Best Regards,

James Sim.


Who?? that'll be the Boys from Blackpool!

Mind you, they very kindly provided a nice pair of heat resistant gloves to stop you burning your pinkies (I wondered what they were for until I did my first oil level check). D'oh!

T88CAN

3,474 posts

272 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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salty-nlv said:

I think myself and T88CAN are competing for most rebuilds ever!!!


Just one upgrade for me Stu

Graham66

850 posts

299 months

Monday 22nd March 2004
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salty-nlv said:
....I think myself and T88CAN are competing for most rebuilds ever!!!


I think you have a way to go yet