02 Tuscan at Main Dealer

02 Tuscan at Main Dealer

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cnjohnson_uk

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

258 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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We are looking at an 02 Tuscan 4.0 at a main dealer. Its done 3.5K miles and is in a Halcyon green (sorry I don't know the full official name)with a Magnolia interior.

What would anyone expect to pay for this car with a 12mths warranty, service before delivery?

chim450

1,452 posts

276 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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I think you are probably looking at £33-£35,000. The car has hardly been run-in though.

Could well have a few niggles to sort out as it has obviously not been used much.

I think the biggest potential worry though is the possibility of engine problems. I think most people here agree that the Speed 6 engine has been much more reliable post 2003. The early cars that have needed engine re-builds have been much better with a 2003 spec build.

If the car had more mileage with no problems, I would personally be happier. However in the sports car world low mileage attracts larger prices, even though it has been proven time and again that these cars are more likely ones to have problems.

I

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theblacktuscks

823 posts

268 months

Friday 13th February 2004
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I'm not sure that I can agree with Chim Girl (sorry) but my observation is that you get dissatisified customers posting more often than satisfied ones. I got my Tuscan S in March of last year with 2600 miles on the clock. The car was built in November 2001. Since buying the "blacktusks" I have increased the mileage to well over 14,000 miles with no engine problems. I have had a couple of minor niggles that the factory (I live about 80 miles away) have sorted with good grace. This Summer I plan to tour Italy, France & Portugal - not at the same time - and I'm really looking forward to it!

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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You mean a Tuscan S can't be in three places at the same time! Make sure you get the full recovery package.

cnjohnson_uk

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

258 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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So would £35,500 be OTT for this Tuscan.

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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If you're paying cash (i.e. no trade-in) £35.5K is high considering list price. £32K is nearer the mark IMO. There's hardly a stampede to buy Tuscans at the moment so haggle hard and dirty.

chim_girl

6,268 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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theblacktuscks said:
I'm not sure that I can agree with Chim Girl (sorry) but my observation is that you get dissatisified customers posting more often than satisfied ones.


What did I say?

cnjohnson_uk

Original Poster:

9,586 posts

258 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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should have said Chim450.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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I would hit the interweb thing and check the stock of every TVR dealer in the south.

Try and get the latest model you possibly can - might be lucky and get an 03 model if you haggle hard. Some dealers seem to have more than a handful of Tuscans so hit em hard I say...

anonymous-user

69 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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jigs said:


There's hardly a stampede to buy Tuscans at the moment so haggle hard and dirty.



Jigs is the self appointed expert on Tuscans and their values. Just bear in mind that he talks bollox (tediously) most of the time.



jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Ah but they are antique bollox - very, very valuable.

TUS 373

4,944 posts

296 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Look after them then.

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Hoping to flog them to unrepentant.

TUS 373

4,944 posts

296 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Put then in the classifieds section if you no longer want them.

anonymous-user

69 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Sorry Jigs, I only buy when the provenance is unimpeachable.

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Yeah repentant you're right again - it's not bollox it's the truth! A certain antique dealer tried to dismiss them as bollox - obviously he has an ulterior motive.

It's strange how current Tuscan owners and therefore potential sellers with a vested interest hate to hear an unbiased valuation based on market knowledge and indisputable facts.

Methinks they protest too much to be taken seriously.

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>> Edited by jigs on Saturday 14th February 16:23

chim_girl

6,268 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Jigs, I'm not trying to make a point or start an argument, but just how do you arrive at your valuations? Are you in the trade or something? Sorry if this has been done before.

Jo

jigs

1,840 posts

265 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Chim Girl there's nothing new in this world.

Depreciation and hence the future values of cars such as the Tuscan can be accurately judged by careful consideration of the market and several other factors.

Without going into detail the main factors which will dictate Tuscan values are:-
Desirability to future potential purchasers, reliability, supply/demand, fashion, reputation, etc.

The Tuscan fares badly in my assessment because without a cast-iron warranty the Tuscan will be seen as a bad bet by potential classic purchasers, it has a poor reliability record, there's a bigger supply than demand, it's no longer 'flavour of the month' and currently it has a 'wide boy/poseur' reputation.

For example compare it against the 993 Porsche on all these factors and you'll see what I mean!

chim_girl

6,268 posts

274 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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Thanks for the explanation. I'm not sure I agree with the 'wide-boy' comments but we shall agree to disagree.

So, if you were in my shoes, what would you buy for ~£30k that is going be a desirable motor in a few years?

BTW, what do you drive?

anonymous-user

69 months

Saturday 14th February 2004
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jigs said:
The Tuscan fares badly in my assessment because ...............Tuscan will be seen as a bad bet by potential classic purchasers, it has a poor reliability record, there's a bigger supply than demand, it's no longer 'flavour of the month' and currently it has a 'wide boy/poseur' reputation.




WTF are you on about. I've never heard such a load of crap in my life. "Wide Boy reputation" - where did you dream that up from?

What's your motivation here jigs? As far as I'm aware you don't have a Tuscan but you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on here rubbishing them. Are you just a Troll?