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Hmpf.
Coming home tonight from a party, just cruising along behind some moron in a people-carrier doing 30 in a 40.. (grrr) and all of a sudden a tell-tale rattle develops whilst accelerating.
Uh-oh.. heard that before.
Another 5 miles to home and its developed into a full-time knock-rattle-tap-thump (technical term
)...
*sigh*
Looks like rebuild number 2 is on it's way. Sorry v8tvr. The speed six is still made from jelly.
Trouble now is I was debating whether to lose the TVR at the end of the summer just to save on some cash. This makes me feel even more like ditching it. Trouble is, even as I parked poor Beasty up in the drive as I got home tonight, the thought of losing her was too much. I even sat on the way home talking to my girlfriend saying.. oh well, it only took 5 weeks last time - we'll still have it back for August!
What do they put in these cars to make us put up with this sh!t (and I'm not going to try and pretend that engines going bang are an acceptable part of ownership). Oh well, can't wait to rag the hell out of her again in 6 weeks time...
-andy-
Coming home tonight from a party, just cruising along behind some moron in a people-carrier doing 30 in a 40.. (grrr) and all of a sudden a tell-tale rattle develops whilst accelerating.
Uh-oh.. heard that before.
Another 5 miles to home and its developed into a full-time knock-rattle-tap-thump (technical term
)... *sigh*
Looks like rebuild number 2 is on it's way. Sorry v8tvr. The speed six is still made from jelly.
Trouble now is I was debating whether to lose the TVR at the end of the summer just to save on some cash. This makes me feel even more like ditching it. Trouble is, even as I parked poor Beasty up in the drive as I got home tonight, the thought of losing her was too much. I even sat on the way home talking to my girlfriend saying.. oh well, it only took 5 weeks last time - we'll still have it back for August!
What do they put in these cars to make us put up with this sh!t (and I'm not going to try and pretend that engines going bang are an acceptable part of ownership). Oh well, can't wait to rag the hell out of her again in 6 weeks time...
-andy-
The very debate at DeR Central three years ago.
I got shut but you know what? I want in again!
Just keep reminding yourself that it's faster than most production Fezzas to this day and until recently (so we are told) no less reliable.
Factor in the 'buy-in' discount relative to the stallions, no more prohibitive ownership costs and the comparable hard on of sheer ownsership per se and the negatives melt away.
Why is it that TVRs excite in a similar vein to not just Fezzas but Lambos too? Because they look stunning, go pretty much as well or better and cost bugger all in comparison.
No, no, no: every logical fibre of my being can condemn TVR not.
Christ: listen to me! And I'm a staff viggener! Guess I'll say anything after too much work, a bout of the lurgy and several well chilled crates of transatlantic gnats' uriah.
Chin, chin.
I got shut but you know what? I want in again!
Just keep reminding yourself that it's faster than most production Fezzas to this day and until recently (so we are told) no less reliable.
Factor in the 'buy-in' discount relative to the stallions, no more prohibitive ownership costs and the comparable hard on of sheer ownsership per se and the negatives melt away.
Why is it that TVRs excite in a similar vein to not just Fezzas but Lambos too? Because they look stunning, go pretty much as well or better and cost bugger all in comparison.
No, no, no: every logical fibre of my being can condemn TVR not.
Christ: listen to me! And I'm a staff viggener! Guess I'll say anything after too much work, a bout of the lurgy and several well chilled crates of transatlantic gnats' uriah.
Chin, chin.
Bo11ocks. It's not fair.
I think you know the deal with TVRs. The only comparable car is a Ferrari - and the running costs and reliability are much worse with those. Lambo even worse still! There always is a Porsche....well if you're into that kind of thing....a car with no emotion. A Noble maybe a fair punt but I would be concerned about long term residuals from a car marque with no heritage. Nice motor though.
You're between a rock and hard place. If you get rid, you know you'll be always asking yourself, "what if I'd kept it...."
Cheers,
Andy.
I think you know the deal with TVRs. The only comparable car is a Ferrari - and the running costs and reliability are much worse with those. Lambo even worse still! There always is a Porsche....well if you're into that kind of thing....a car with no emotion. A Noble maybe a fair punt but I would be concerned about long term residuals from a car marque with no heritage. Nice motor though.
You're between a rock and hard place. If you get rid, you know you'll be always asking yourself, "what if I'd kept it...."
Cheers,
Andy.
I've got to say, you seem very calm about this. Rebuild No.2 I would be hopping mad! I'm on rebuild No.1 and it’s due back this well after its 1000 mile service, but I was told that TVR have sorted the problem and most rebuilds don't go wrong again... Yeah Right... I wasn't born yesterday.
This is totally unacceptable from TVR. I've said it before but with only 1000 car a year being built and most being the Speed Six, with all this bad publicity, some sort of statement must be due from TVR re this...
Hope you get it back soon
MR F
This is totally unacceptable from TVR. I've said it before but with only 1000 car a year being built and most being the Speed Six, with all this bad publicity, some sort of statement must be due from TVR re this...
Hope you get it back soon
MR F
Bad luck sixspeed. Perhaps our old engines will be at the pearly gates in Blackpool together. I'd an email from another chap whose has just expired too after I posted my woes.
I'm hoping to have mine back for the end of the month if the chaps at the factory can get it sorted for me.
Test drove a Smart Roadster at the weekend - not quite as quick, but perfect second car to enjoy the sun when the Tuscan is sick.
Gary.
I'm hoping to have mine back for the end of the month if the chaps at the factory can get it sorted for me.
Test drove a Smart Roadster at the weekend - not quite as quick, but perfect second car to enjoy the sun when the Tuscan is sick.
Gary.
Oh don't worry.. it will
I was talking yesterday about second (well, first) cars. I'm awaiting delvery of an RX-8 when they're released at the end of the year. Was trying to decide if I'd find this a little more bearable if I had another fun car to play with (the G40 isn't bad, but it's still a Polo.. lol)
Wondering also whether to give the Tuscan the boot now for an Ultima...
-andy-
I was talking yesterday about second (well, first) cars. I'm awaiting delvery of an RX-8 when they're released at the end of the year. Was trying to decide if I'd find this a little more bearable if I had another fun car to play with (the G40 isn't bad, but it's still a Polo.. lol)
Wondering also whether to give the Tuscan the boot now for an Ultima...
-andy-
andyvdg said:
The only comparable car is a Ferrari - and the running costs and reliability are much worse with those.
Andy.
Sorry but I have to disagree.
How many Ferraris have you heard of with blowing engines? I'm sure there are some, but not in the same league as Speed sixes. Feel free to believe this if it makes you feel better but it's not true.
Having just traded the Tuscan for a 360, the differance in build quality is worth the money, sorry.
tuscan_s said:
Well if you don't do either then let me know
How many miles do you have on it now? I would seriously ask them to give you the latest mods from the 400hp Tuscan S as well as the bloody Close Ratio box when it goes back.
PS. What oil have you been using?
Ahh yes, the CR Box...
Will be hoping to see one of those with the engine this time (hoped one would come down last time the engine was away on holiday).
Oil has been Mobil1 all the way...
-andy-
Bad luck Andy, just been through my second rebuild too.
Still running it in again at the moment.
I'm definitly NOT convinced that TVR have sorted this problem out. I've heard stories about them having to take on more people in the engine departments to help out with the backlogs as well as issues with lack of parts.
Also heard they found another dodgy set of components and had to scrap them and get someone else to build them to a higher specification (which begs the question as to whats going to happen to the people with the lower spec'd parts installed)?
Same situation as you though, I love my Cerbera S6 too much to sell it... can't think what else to buy !
Note on Ferrari's, I work in Egham where there are two main dealers... I see broken down 'rarries turn up on the back of lorries at least twice a day !
Keep the faith....
Still running it in again at the moment.
I'm definitly NOT convinced that TVR have sorted this problem out. I've heard stories about them having to take on more people in the engine departments to help out with the backlogs as well as issues with lack of parts.
Also heard they found another dodgy set of components and had to scrap them and get someone else to build them to a higher specification (which begs the question as to whats going to happen to the people with the lower spec'd parts installed)?
Same situation as you though, I love my Cerbera S6 too much to sell it... can't think what else to buy !
Note on Ferrari's, I work in Egham where there are two main dealers... I see broken down 'rarries turn up on the back of lorries at least twice a day !
Keep the faith....
bertie said:
The only comparable car is a Ferrari - and the running costs and reliability are much worse with those.
Andy.
Sorry but I have to disagree.
How many Ferraris have you heard of with blowing engines? I'm sure there are some, but not in the same league as Speed sixes. Feel free to believe this if it makes you feel better but it's not true.
Having just traded the Tuscan for a 360, the differance in build quality is worth the money, sorry.
Yeah, and how much are the services going to run you? How much for a new cam belt? Is a new clutch still an "engine out" job that takes a week or more?
Their build quality may have improved exponentially since the take over (Fiat owns them now, right?) but I doubt the service costs have changed much. I'm sure the build-quality on a Murcialago is light-years ahead of the Countach and Diablo (thanks to Audi) but I bet they're still expensive to run as well.
Also, isn't the scuttlebutt around here that the head redesign that bought the 4.0L Speed Six an extra 10bhp done to fix the reliability problem?
Anyone know for sure whether this is the case? Anyone know whether or not existing engines can be upgraded to get the new reliability and power?
Also, I'd be curious to know if the upgrade also affects the 3.6.
Anyone?
Just so everybody keeps thing in perspective about costs etc i found this thread the first page is a bl**dy good read
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=34050&f=63&h=0&hw=servicing
Sorry about the rebuild, the car looked so good at PF
www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=34050&f=63&h=0&hw=servicing
Sorry about the rebuild,
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