Tuscan engines and warranty claims..............

Tuscan engines and warranty claims..............

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perots

Original Poster:

4 posts

258 months

Wednesday 7th May 2003
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Okay, So I have read the engine re-build threads and yet still want to buy one (heart ruling head - therefore true TVR man ).
So when my engine let's me down, ,I am wondering what cover I might have from a warranty. Here is where I could do with some help please. I would be grateful if engine re-build victims who had warranties could advise if the work was covered by it i.e. Did they cough up fully! Useful if you could state whether the warranty was top of the range, Total, or something lesser.
With this info from a number of Tuscaneers hopefully a clearer picture of the warranty situation will arise cos' at the moment I have no idea. If most warranty claims are failing then I am not sure I want to take the risk and I'll stick with the V8.

Since engine probs are quite a hot topic on here I'm sure a few of us would appreciate this info.

Thanks.


Telboy

25 posts

261 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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As an addition to this thread, but on the same topic, who gives the best warranty on the beastie once the two years is up?

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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Is it just me or is the topic of this thread rather an apalling reflection on how little TVR have advanced this problem?

perots

Original Poster:

4 posts

258 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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...not just you Apache.

The thing is for all we know perhaps they have improved the situation.
A desirable but flawed car from a manufacturer with little real competition in a thriving market. We all love them so much that we still buy them anyway. The result: Nothing changes....because TVR don't have too.

The dilemma......as I look to buy.

Private buy. lots around. No cover if engine does go - Large bill and no car for weeks. (saw 8k rebuild job today !). Of course, may not happen but who can afford to take the risk. I cannot.

Trade buy. Few cars around. Extra 5-6k ish over private. Warranty, hopefully a "Total", means some cover but NO guarantee re-engine claims as discussed elsewhere on here.I started this thread to get a clearer picture on this. Warranty co's will argue anyway they can to avoid paying large sums - cause of engine failure can be a very subjective issue. Proving you have not been reckless etc. Upshot: if they can get out or reduce payment they will. GOOD dealers can be very helpful to GOOD customers and give some "goodwill" assistance when the warranty co. is not playing ball.

Overall, not a situation I like to be in when I'm about to blow £35k on a car.

Must have one though!



qualityscrew

503 posts

270 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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For 35k you can almost buy new! Especially with no part-ex.

If you do, then the engine is covered for 2 years - no problem!

pubman

308 posts

265 months

Thursday 8th May 2003
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Mark,
Go for it. I bought mine 2.5 years ago,new, and have had mega problems. I collect it from Racing Green tomorrow following a third rebuild at the factory. It is still under warranty and I expect to be able to negotiate an extension as on previous occassions.I can,t think of any other car that I would want.(that is affordable)

perots

Original Poster:

4 posts

258 months

Friday 9th May 2003
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Geoff,

Did you get all your engines and associated work paid for ? If so, was it a battle ?

Thanks,

Mark

rick.e

768 posts

278 months

Friday 9th May 2003
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Engine problems still crop up regularly on the Tuscan forum but not on the Tam/350 forum. Does that mean that (a) they've fixed the problems, (b)Tamora owners keep quiet about it or (c) Too early to judge?

T88CAN

3,474 posts

264 months

Friday 9th May 2003
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rick.e said: Engine problems still crop up regularly on the Tuscan forum but not on the Tam/350 forum. Does that mean that (a) they've fixed the problems, (b)Tamora owners keep quiet about it or (c) Too early to judge?


I think if you look at the numbers there is a lot fewer Tamora owners and maybe there is something in the 4.0 v 3.6 debate (as on another thread)

Graham

16,369 posts

291 months

Friday 9th May 2003
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another angle on this is that you can get an engine from a breakers for around 2k isnt that about the same as a warranty....

buy one as a spare....

i've got half an idea that involves a mk1 escort and a speed 6 engine mmmm

apache

39,731 posts

291 months

Saturday 10th May 2003
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an S6 engine for £2k? you must be joking

Telboy

25 posts

261 months

Saturday 10th May 2003
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Wow... if you know where to pick up an engine for 2k then let me know asap cos I'll have three of them. Wonder if I'll be able to stretch a motorbike frame to accomodate one, that could be interesting - gulp.

pubman

308 posts

265 months

Saturday 10th May 2003
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perots said: Geoff,

Did you get all your engines and associated work paid for ? If so, was it a battle ?

Thanks,

Mark


All under warranty, just inconvenience. Like I said to Dave Cummings (TVR transport manager). You have got no idea what it,s like being stuck in a pub for 8weeks.( everyone,s dream I suppose).
Geoff

Graham

16,369 posts

291 months

Saturday 10th May 2003
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apache said: an S6 engine for £2k? you must be joking



Ok i was slightly out but not much and it was from memmory

>>>>
Standard engine £3000. S engine £3500. Gearbox to
suit if bought with an engine. £500.

All prices plus VAT.

Kind regards

Tom

>02/12/2002 17:00:43, "Bell Hill Garage"
wrote:
>
>>I have 2 2002 speed 6 engines with all ancillaries
on. one has done 1000
>>miles the other 897. One engine has the name of
the mechanic who built it
>>enscribed on it and we believe it to be an S engine
as the spec of the car
>>was very heigh with all ally rads etc.
>>Both came from damaged cars but both were ran up
before removal. Please call
>>me if your interested.
>>
>>Kind regards


I assume there is just no market for a second hand speed 6 lump at the mo.. Im surprised the factory dont buy them back

G

>> Edited by Graham on Saturday 10th May 23:45

Telboy

25 posts

261 months

Sunday 11th May 2003
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Now thats something worth knowing. Sorry for doubting you before but those engines are seriously cheap. I'm surprised the kit car fraternity haven't slid one into something else yet "just as an experiment".

Anyone know of anything else running a speed six engine at the mo?

Tel.

Gaffer

7,156 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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pubman said:

perots said: Geoff,

Did you get all your engines and associated work paid for ? If so, was it a battle ?

Thanks,

Mark


All under warranty, just inconvenience. Like I said to Dave Cummings (TVR transport manager). You have got no idea what it,s like being stuck in a pub for 8weeks.( everyone,s dream I suppose).
Geoff



It actually Dave Cumming. And that would be his idea of heaven...and my mums as well (getting rid of him for 8 weeks). I think the cats would miss him though

Claire


>> Edited by Gaffer on Wednesday 11th June 12:25

Mr Freefall

2,323 posts

265 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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As I understand MOST insurance companys refuse to pay up, but TVR have paid for most of them on the first rebuild...

BUT I could be wrong on this, but I know of 3 people where the engines had to have a rebuild and TVR have paid, one person had TWO rebuilds and I have just heard of someone who had a full engine rebuild after owning the car for 1000 miles, and it sounds as if the engine has gone again, just after the rebuild!

All in all not good publicity for the Speed six, and yes Tamora engines do go, and people on this forum have had a top-end rebuild on Tamora’s. This was on 12000 miles. This was a 51plate I think. I see to recall it was the fishy finger problem.

Anyhow, its not just the TUSCANS that goes wrong Tam's do too...

yohan

38 posts

259 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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....in case I'm one of those mentioned above.

My newly rebuilt engine is still a bit noisy but I'm assured this is normal. Now done 650 miles and my whining noise seems to be getting quieter (or am I going deaf?). Engine is generally running better all the time. Can't wait for the 1000mile service after which everything should be "tickety boo" (touch wood).....

p.s. the rebuild on my 2000RR was paid for by TVR and/or dealer after WH refused to cough up. Mustn't grumble.

marki

15,763 posts

277 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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I just can not belive this situation with the S6 engines , or that people continue to buy the Tuscan ,, i like TVR`s , and i adore the Tuscan`s looks and what its capable of but i just could not live with the uncertainty of it or the costs involved if (when) it went bang , what the hell the future prices on Tuscans going to be once the warrantees run out .

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

268 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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marki,

I think its worth pointing out that 99.9% of these problems are related to 2000-2001 cars. TVR seem to have got the engine on the newer models more or less sorted. So yes they have gone through a development nightmare with the speed 6 but it should be reliable now. Thats the view speaking to guys who have bought new that past year and a half. Time will tell but the amount of T350's being built/sold will prove this in about a year I say.

So fingers crossed then

Alan.

>> Edited by Alf Essex on Thursday 12th June 08:20