WHATS ALL THIS REBUILDING ENGINES??????
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BLOODY HELL IVE JUST ORDERED MY TUSCAN AND AM NOW VERY PARANOID ABOUT HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THERE NEW CARS NEEDING REBUILDS AFTER A FEW THOUDSAND MILES????
WHATS THIS ALL ABOUT!!! I SPEND 45K+ AND ILE NEED A REBUILD?? HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST AND WHY AT SUCH LOW MILEAGE? PLEASE SOOTHE THE PAIN SOMEONE!!!! IM BRICKING IT NOW!!!!
WHATS THIS ALL ABOUT!!! I SPEND 45K+ AND ILE NEED A REBUILD?? HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST AND WHY AT SUCH LOW MILEAGE? PLEASE SOOTHE THE PAIN SOMEONE!!!! IM BRICKING IT NOW!!!!
BLOODY HELL IVE JUST ORDERED MY TUSCAN AND AM NOW VERY PARANOID ABOUT HEARING PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THERE NEW CARS NEEDING REBUILDS AFTER A FEW THOUDSAND MILES????
WHATS THIS ALL ABOUT!!! I SPEND 45K+ AND ILE NEED A REBUILD?? HOW MUCH WILL THAT COST AND WHY AT SUCH LOW MILEAGE? PLEASE SOOTHE THE PAIN SOMEONE!!!! IM BRICKING IT NOW!!!!
A quick search through the archives will tell you alot about the previous and current form of TVR SP6 engines.
Try a search for "caps lock" also?
Calm down demonseed!
The "rebuilds" you have been reading about are mostly replacement of the cams and finger followers on older cars due to the components not being manufactured to the required specification ("too soft allegedly"). A minority percentage of older cars had this problem.
A very very small number of people have had more than one attempt at replacing those fault components - nobody seems to know why but it does appear to be exceptional.
How much will it cost you - nothing. It shouldn't happen on a brand new car (never say never, touch wood etc) but in any case engines are covered by a 2 year warranty.
Hope this helps. If you want more eye opening, join the Tuscan Owners eGroup and search through the archives.
Cheers,
Andy.
The "rebuilds" you have been reading about are mostly replacement of the cams and finger followers on older cars due to the components not being manufactured to the required specification ("too soft allegedly"). A minority percentage of older cars had this problem.
A very very small number of people have had more than one attempt at replacing those fault components - nobody seems to know why but it does appear to be exceptional.
How much will it cost you - nothing. It shouldn't happen on a brand new car (never say never, touch wood etc) but in any case engines are covered by a 2 year warranty.
Hope this helps. If you want more eye opening, join the Tuscan Owners eGroup and search through the archives.
Cheers,
Andy.
I went to buy a Tuscan last week (second hand), backed out because of reliability. Having owned 7 TVR's, I have been nothing been enthusiastic about the marque.
However TVR building their own engines a BIG mistake!!! in my opinion.
why they didn't dump the Rover V8 ( which is a decent
unit), and adopt the Mustang quad cam defies logic. (I know most of you wont agree with me).When I went to buy a Tuscan last week and asked to see the engine, and they said NO! you need special tools to remove the bonnet(what a laugh) I walked away having made a decision possibly to never buy a TVR again. All this means as far as I can tell, is that TVR want it all ways, if an engine goes bang, back to the dealer it goes, who then take the engine out and send it off to the factory. Who then charge the customer at their discretion, at this rate with the reliability issues, and the cost of keeping a Tuscan on the road, how much does an unreliable Tuscan actually cost? (and from reading posts here many are unreliable), say you pay 45000 for a Tuscan, 2 engine rebuilds later if that car if out of warranty, will stand the owner 57000 approx (scary isn't it).
NO!!! car these days whether it is hand built or mass produced, should be unreliable mechanically for at least 60000 miles or 3 years. Many will say "Oh but they have engines more like a race engine than a normal car engine", (Bollocks) how many of you drive them hard enough to make the engines go bang. Many of you will have Tuscans which have been reliable (Good), but many of you wont and there's the problem, you just never Know....... TVR should have stayed with a proven V8 from another manufacturer, and should have invested in better build quality. After 15 years of TVR ownership I would only buy one again if the reliability and quality issues are sorted. This of course is only my opinion.
>> Edited by TVR57S on Wednesday 7th May 09:45
However TVR building their own engines a BIG mistake!!! in my opinion.
why they didn't dump the Rover V8 ( which is a decent
unit), and adopt the Mustang quad cam defies logic. (I know most of you wont agree with me).When I went to buy a Tuscan last week and asked to see the engine, and they said NO! you need special tools to remove the bonnet(what a laugh) I walked away having made a decision possibly to never buy a TVR again. All this means as far as I can tell, is that TVR want it all ways, if an engine goes bang, back to the dealer it goes, who then take the engine out and send it off to the factory. Who then charge the customer at their discretion, at this rate with the reliability issues, and the cost of keeping a Tuscan on the road, how much does an unreliable Tuscan actually cost? (and from reading posts here many are unreliable), say you pay 45000 for a Tuscan, 2 engine rebuilds later if that car if out of warranty, will stand the owner 57000 approx (scary isn't it).
NO!!! car these days whether it is hand built or mass produced, should be unreliable mechanically for at least 60000 miles or 3 years. Many will say "Oh but they have engines more like a race engine than a normal car engine", (Bollocks) how many of you drive them hard enough to make the engines go bang. Many of you will have Tuscans which have been reliable (Good), but many of you wont and there's the problem, you just never Know....... TVR should have stayed with a proven V8 from another manufacturer, and should have invested in better build quality. After 15 years of TVR ownership I would only buy one again if the reliability and quality issues are sorted. This of course is only my opinion.
>> Edited by TVR57S on Wednesday 7th May 09:45
Anyone can take the bonnet, no special tools are required. It's fixed in place with some nuts because it can then be lighter.
It doesn't look to me as if your assumptions about cost and number of rebuilds required are that solid (if that's what you mean by reliability).
From what you have written, it seems that you have justified to yourself not to buy another TVR (I think you were looking at Cerberas as well). TVRs loss I guess.
It doesn't look to me as if your assumptions about cost and number of rebuilds required are that solid (if that's what you mean by reliability).
From what you have written, it seems that you have justified to yourself not to buy another TVR (I think you were looking at Cerberas as well). TVRs loss I guess.
shadowninja said: I always thought that only the brave would buy a brand new TVR, to be honest
I'd rather let someone else do the... er... beta testing for me, and purchase the finished product in 2 years+ time.
-Darren
This is true of any motor manufacturer. I know someone who used to work in the warranty department of a large car manufacturer, and the # of claims with newly introduced cars was large. The re-designs only filtered down to the production line once the old parts stock was used up.
"Oh but they have engines more like a race engine than a normal car engine"
I agree that is total rubbish.
380bhp from a 4.0 which doesn't rev beyond 7200rpm?
Doesn't sound very race enginey to me.
You get a specific power of over 100bhp per litre and 8000rpm on an M3.
Same with a Lotus Exige.
7200rpm is a very low rev limit for this type of car IMO. Worryingly low in fact. Suggests fragility to me.
I agree that is total rubbish.
380bhp from a 4.0 which doesn't rev beyond 7200rpm?
Doesn't sound very race enginey to me.
You get a specific power of over 100bhp per litre and 8000rpm on an M3.
Same with a Lotus Exige.
7200rpm is a very low rev limit for this type of car IMO. Worryingly low in fact. Suggests fragility to me.
Toyota Supra mk3's had a habit of blowing head gaskets within 50-60k.
Before I bought mine, the previous owner had a new turbo, crankshaft etc, about 3k of work (all done by Toyota under warranty).
The Gasket problem was overcome by tighening down the bolts on the head.
The Supra never got a bad name because of it though, because once it was fixed the problem didn't re-occur.
I think the problem with the Tuscan is the issue of recurring problems owners have had with their cars at such a low mileage.
Lee
Before I bought mine, the previous owner had a new turbo, crankshaft etc, about 3k of work (all done by Toyota under warranty).
The Gasket problem was overcome by tighening down the bolts on the head.
The Supra never got a bad name because of it though, because once it was fixed the problem didn't re-occur.
I think the problem with the Tuscan is the issue of recurring problems owners have had with their cars at such a low mileage.
Lee
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