2006 Tuscan convertible
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If the seller is so confident, then he should take it to someone like Powers Performance, let them inspect the engine, and confirm whether all is fine or whether it's a time-bomb.
Without that, they will never sell it, unless the price of a Powers type rebuild and warranty has already been deducted from the asking price.
It's a time bomb until proved otherwise, given the history of these engines.
Without that, they will never sell it, unless the price of a Powers type rebuild and warranty has already been deducted from the asking price.
It's a time bomb until proved otherwise, given the history of these engines.
Is that the Transite Blue one from James Agger ? I think it should have been cared for if C4PNE owned it and Hexham Horseless would have serviced it . You can never guaranteed a big bill won't hit you with any car , but no reason to believe this one would. I think the price is very fair for the mileage and the spec... being an "S" . The VIN is 1050 in 2006 mine is 1061 , so a March/April car in 2006 , IIRC correctly I saw it in build at the factory..
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Lucy is talking b
ks with no personal experience
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Lucy is talking b
ks with no personal experienceThere ae a few mods I would recommend , improvements that have occurred over the last nearly 20 years :-
i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
philburch said:
thank's for the advice have a Tamora with Powers 4-3 rebuild just have an itch for the Tuscan
I think you'll find the convertible boot a great plus compared to a Tamora .... it's like a bottomless pit 
and it's a prettier rear But I still prefer my Chims roof in the boot option , hugging the petrol tank is more practical that it lying flat .
glow worm said:
There ae a few mods I would recommend , improvements that have occurred over the last nearly 20 years :-
i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
Are you sure about the diff ratios? Mine had the 3:46 fitted as standard (non S) and worked well on the road, another Tuscan had the 3:73 fitted and the acceleration was noticeably quicker, on a par with a stabbed Cheetah on performance enhancing drugs, the only downside being it revved higher in 5th on the motorway, both had the standard gearbox fitted i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
s6boy - How many rebuilds has your Tuscan had? Any in your ownership or were they all before you bought the car? Who did the rebuild(s)?
If you went to look at a house built in the early 21st century, and 90% of the properties on the estate had suffered from subsidence at some point, some of which had been fixed more than once by the builder, who had long gone bust, would you happily buy that house, pay the full asking price, and take the risk? Or would you walk away; or ask for a report into possible subsidence; or ask for a discount to cover the risk of having to address the subsidence?
If you went to look at a house built in the early 21st century, and 90% of the properties on the estate had suffered from subsidence at some point, some of which had been fixed more than once by the builder, who had long gone bust, would you happily buy that house, pay the full asking price, and take the risk? Or would you walk away; or ask for a report into possible subsidence; or ask for a discount to cover the risk of having to address the subsidence?
Hi, I have to lean towards Lucy in this case. Some engines last well. Most don’t. Unfortunately this is not conjecture, it is an easily proved fact. I looked at Tuscans and T350s before going for a 3000s.
The straight six engine got better later on, so that is on your side. But, they are prone to cranks breaking and finger followers failing. The risk of a £10k bill with an unrestored engine is real, percentage likelihood, who knows, 50:50? After looking at many many cars and trawling ads I decided I didn’t like the engine that much and wasn’t prepared to take the risk.
As an example Amore sold a Sagaris with low miles, it broke its crank within 10 miles after collection by the customer. Several owners have had more than one rebuild. £10k bill might be optimistic…
You pays your money you takes your choice, but realistically no one should tell you the engines are a sure fire reliable item, the evidence is very clearly to the opposite.
In saying that James Agger only sells good cars, in my experience. But even he can’t guarantee future engine issues.
Best
Nic
The straight six engine got better later on, so that is on your side. But, they are prone to cranks breaking and finger followers failing. The risk of a £10k bill with an unrestored engine is real, percentage likelihood, who knows, 50:50? After looking at many many cars and trawling ads I decided I didn’t like the engine that much and wasn’t prepared to take the risk.
As an example Amore sold a Sagaris with low miles, it broke its crank within 10 miles after collection by the customer. Several owners have had more than one rebuild. £10k bill might be optimistic…
You pays your money you takes your choice, but realistically no one should tell you the engines are a sure fire reliable item, the evidence is very clearly to the opposite.
In saying that James Agger only sells good cars, in my experience. But even he can’t guarantee future engine issues.
Best
Nic
Gladers01 said:
glow worm said:
There ae a few mods I would recommend , improvements that have occurred over the last nearly 20 years :-
i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
Are you sure about the diff ratios? Mine had the 3:46 fitted as standard (non S) and worked well on the road, another Tuscan had the 3:73 fitted and the acceleration was noticeably quicker, on a par with a stabbed Cheetah on performance enhancing drugs, the only downside being it revved higher in 5th on the motorway, both had the standard gearbox fitted i) Upgraded half time bearing
ii) Improved engine chain guide
iii) upgraded MBE ECU with anti knock sensors
iv) change diff to 4:73 ratio... i doubt it with have a Close Ratio gearbox and 4:91 diff ,which it should have since it's an S , but TVR didn't have the bits in 2006 so it's usually standard that was supplied.
I got Dom to rebuild mine as 4.5 Super Sport over 10 years ago , only because i wanted more torque at low revs and I had a bit of chain noise.
Lucy, my '04 3.6 is on 95k miles, bought a year old on the original engine at just over 3k.
Head replaced about 12 years ago due to detonation caused by rubbish fuel/very hot day/getting ragged by an idiot who knew better! Replacement courtesy of a rebuilt part from Dom. Half time bearing done at the same time as it made sense while the engine was out.
Clutch replaced at about 75k as the slave had given up. Still kicking myself as the original was still in excellent shape (Mat Smith for corroboration if needed) so should have kept it in.
Two alternators and two batteries. Plus lots of servicing.
Driven in all weathers with several trips to Italy including 1100 miles in a day and hoping to break the 100k mark before its 20th birthday on a trip down to northern Spain. Often driven very hard so who know what will happen between now and then?
Regarding post c21 estates I hate the cloned architecture so would never look at one in the first place. Not something you can say about TVRs'
As you asked that's my real world experience, now I am interested to hear about yours?
Head replaced about 12 years ago due to detonation caused by rubbish fuel/very hot day/getting ragged by an idiot who knew better! Replacement courtesy of a rebuilt part from Dom. Half time bearing done at the same time as it made sense while the engine was out.
Clutch replaced at about 75k as the slave had given up. Still kicking myself as the original was still in excellent shape (Mat Smith for corroboration if needed) so should have kept it in.
Two alternators and two batteries. Plus lots of servicing.
Driven in all weathers with several trips to Italy including 1100 miles in a day and hoping to break the 100k mark before its 20th birthday on a trip down to northern Spain. Often driven very hard so who know what will happen between now and then?
Regarding post c21 estates I hate the cloned architecture so would never look at one in the first place. Not something you can say about TVRs'
As you asked that's my real world experience, now I am interested to hear about yours?
I had a 2006 Tuscan S Convertible which I sold not long ago, having owned it for 12 years.
The later models were far more reliable engine wise and have to say mine never let me down. I had minor issues with the speedo, heater matrix, and reversing light but all sorted easily.
The convertible S is a great eye catcher, but my F type R is more in line with my age now.
The later models were far more reliable engine wise and have to say mine never let me down. I had minor issues with the speedo, heater matrix, and reversing light but all sorted easily.
The convertible S is a great eye catcher, but my F type R is more in line with my age now.
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