Engine reliability by year..

Engine reliability by year..

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Hunter T

Original Poster:

401 posts

191 months

Tuesday 3rd October 2017
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As above, i see some posts saying that engines on 2003 cars and newer dont suffer the same issues as cars up to 2002..is this fact?What are the differences? Is there a particular good year or bad year for build strength? If a car is registered in 2003 does this mean it will have the more reliable engine? or could it have an engine produced in 2001-2002 etc?

Zippee

13,725 posts

248 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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My 3.6 was a late 2004 engine. At 8000 miles the big end bearing was worn requiring a bottom end rebuild, this was early 2008. In 2012 my half time bearing then failed lunching the whole engine and causing me to shell out on a 4.3 rebuild. At the time the rest of the engine internal were in perfect order.
A couple of my friends have since opted to spend money on the uprated half time bearing as a result of my failure as the original seemed to have been made from chocolate.

Englishman

2,243 posts

224 months

Wednesday 4th October 2017
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The general consensus seems to be that the later the engine is, the more reliable it is likely to be, but there are exceptions. Some early engines are still working fine after 17 years!

My personal experience of four S6 engines, 2 x 2001, 2005 and 2006, is that one of 2001 engines needed rebuilding after less than 1500 miles, but the others are still going fine.

Why not give Dom a ring at Powers Performance to get feedback on a much bigger sample.

Basil Brush

5,308 posts

277 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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There was a step change in reliability mid 2002 due allegedly to changes in parts design and quality.

Up to then multiple rebuilds were fairly common. Mine had a top end one in 2001 and then I think a whole new motor in 2002, but the factory didn't confirm what had been done. All I've got is a piece of paper saying new clutch fitted FOC as compensation for engine problems.

S6PNJ

5,548 posts

295 months

Thursday 5th October 2017
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This Link will probably be the best info for reliability vs age. I do have some data from an earlier survey that I can dig out next week some time. Mine is a 2001 (registered 2002) 4.0 non S and has done about 66k miles on its original engine. The valve guides are a bit worn (evidence of oil use and smoke on the overrun) but otherwise seems to be in good form.

If the car has been used, the engine is likely to either be ok or have gone bang by now. It's the ones left in the garage that don't do the miles and hence haven't yet reached the mileage likely to show issues (non-rebuilt S6 engines around the 15-20k miles mark, or early rebuilt engines with still bad parts (some were rebuilt with 'original' chocolate items!) that haven't done sufficient miles).

travelbug63

98 posts

131 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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I've got a Nov 2002 3.6. Currently done 44k and is on original engine and all reports when it's serviced says it's absolutely fine.

I assume therefore that the problems suffered by earlier cars was fixed prior to mine.

Bobhon

1,059 posts

193 months

Sunday 8th October 2017
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Jan 2002 3.6, just coming up on 50,000 miles. Each service at Str8six reports that it is still very sound.

chrishart54

40 posts

115 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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Mines a 2000 red rose mk1 with 29000 miles, no rebuild as far as I am aware and its been superb. Asked at SD Autotec when I bought it and at subsequent services who say its all fine. Long may it be the case

blueg33

40,676 posts

238 months

Monday 9th October 2017
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My 2001 car needed a rebuild after 41k miles.

so called

9,154 posts

223 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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My 2000 Tuscan had a factory rebuilt at 35k in 2003.
When I bought it in 2006 at 70k it needed a rebuild.
I suppose you call that reliable. smile
My 2006 Tuscan convertible is on 80k no rebuild but with a noisy half time bearing. rolleyes

I thought the engine improvements were 2004 onward's under the then new management.

Big GT

1,949 posts

106 months

Tuesday 10th October 2017
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Mines a Mk1 4.0 2003. Rebuilt in 2008 on 25K miles and its only now on 31K.

pblake

399 posts

236 months

Wednesday 18th October 2017
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We have a 2001 which before we bought it last year had been back to the factory twice for rebuild. At 27k when we got it the engine was worn out.
1 rebuild and 6k later no issues.