Replacing engine mounts
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Hi, I am looking for some help with replacing both engine mounts.
I have removed all the bolts on both mounts which hold the engine mounts to the chassis and the brackets from the engine mount to the engine.
Currently I have the engine being supported by a jack and a stand but how the hell do you get the engine mounts out?
Do I have to remove the brackets from the mount to the engine as well, that looks like a right pig of a job as access is very limited.
Any help would be gratefull
George
I have removed all the bolts on both mounts which hold the engine mounts to the chassis and the brackets from the engine mount to the engine.
Currently I have the engine being supported by a jack and a stand but how the hell do you get the engine mounts out?
Do I have to remove the brackets from the mount to the engine as well, that looks like a right pig of a job as access is very limited.
Any help would be gratefull
George
Hi Basil, thats the stage I have got to but I can't see how the actual mounts get out. I have already swore a lot and dropped a spanner on my face bursting my lip and skinned a few knuckles. I will have them out if it's the last thing I do. I just need to know how to get the Ba%$*@ds out!!
Foraged around in my Hotmail account and found this....Knew it might come in useful!!
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0
Edited to add....blank page!! What the f*&^$! Guess you need to do a search, sorry!
Edit #2...LOL. Copy and paste this time!
Job done !
Thanks for the help. Took me 5 hrs to complete te job, including putting some helicoils in for mounting the plate under engine. Fiddly but really doable.
My experience :
Jack up car and support it.
Unscrew plate under engine
Remove both wheels
Remove airbox (completely)
Remove lower cat
Remove lower lambda
Loosen PAS pump (to allow engine to move towards chassis)
Jack up engine
Undo bolts from NS and OS engine mount
Undo bolts from engine mount to chassis (didn't remove the battery, just loosened it !)
Jack up engine as high as possible
Push engine over to drivers side (used an old carjack and some peaces of wood)
Take mount out (move it downwards and tilt) - fiddling for 1/2 hour to get engine far enough up and away
Shorten threads from new mount (aproxx 10mm).
Mount every thing you removed.
Take to days to get rid of the musclepain from lying under the car for aproxx. 3 hrs.
So, ready for next winterjob, renew wishbone bushes!
What a cracking car. Love it.
Ronald.
Nick
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0
Edited to add....blank page!! What the f*&^$! Guess you need to do a search, sorry!
Edit #2...LOL. Copy and paste this time!
Job done !
Thanks for the help. Took me 5 hrs to complete te job, including putting some helicoils in for mounting the plate under engine. Fiddly but really doable.
My experience :
Jack up car and support it.
Unscrew plate under engine
Remove both wheels
Remove airbox (completely)
Remove lower cat
Remove lower lambda
Loosen PAS pump (to allow engine to move towards chassis)
Jack up engine
Undo bolts from NS and OS engine mount
Undo bolts from engine mount to chassis (didn't remove the battery, just loosened it !)
Jack up engine as high as possible
Push engine over to drivers side (used an old carjack and some peaces of wood)
Take mount out (move it downwards and tilt) - fiddling for 1/2 hour to get engine far enough up and away
Shorten threads from new mount (aproxx 10mm).
Mount every thing you removed.
Take to days to get rid of the musclepain from lying under the car for aproxx. 3 hrs.
So, ready for next winterjob, renew wishbone bushes!
What a cracking car. Love it.
Ronald.
Nick
Edited by nawarne on Monday 4th November 17:31
RIP james said:
Had engine mount on my Tuscan done today. It was the hard one on passenger side. Was fitted under 1 hour half.With out taking exhaust off to.I can recommend TVR Dave, Essex.
George is doing these at home without a ramp. A lot of the time is spent lifting the car and supporting the engine if you don't have a ramp and anything like a transmission jack to support the engine on. I haven't managed to get back to the engine mounts on my car but I plan on doing it this week.
I have been thinking I should put it all back together and take it to a garage, but I really want to have a go at it so I will look at it again and see what I can do.
And yes I have the car on 4 stands in the garage so lying on my back doing this.
So far
All 4 wheels removed
Engine plates removed
All bolts removed from the mounts
All bolts removed from engine brackets
Car engine supported by car jack and wood supporting the engine.
Air intake removed.
I have been thinking I should put it all back together and take it to a garage, but I really want to have a go at it so I will look at it again and see what I can do.
And yes I have the car on 4 stands in the garage so lying on my back doing this.
So far
All 4 wheels removed
Engine plates removed
All bolts removed from the mounts
All bolts removed from engine brackets
Car engine supported by car jack and wood supporting the engine.
Air intake removed.
natben said:
I haven't managed to get back to the engine mounts on my car but I plan on doing it this week.
I have been thinking I should put it all back together and take it to a garage, but I really want to have a go at it so I will look at it again and see what I can do.
And yes I have the car on 4 stands in the garage so lying on my back doing this.
So far
All 4 wheels removed
Engine plates removed
All bolts removed from the mounts
All bolts removed from engine brackets
Car engine supported by car jack and wood supporting the engine.
Air intake removed.
George, if you get a better step by step description of changing them rather than the one (from Ron)I pasted in my previous post, then that would be very handy to have!I have been thinking I should put it all back together and take it to a garage, but I really want to have a go at it so I will look at it again and see what I can do.
And yes I have the car on 4 stands in the garage so lying on my back doing this.
So far
All 4 wheels removed
Engine plates removed
All bolts removed from the mounts
All bolts removed from engine brackets
Car engine supported by car jack and wood supporting the engine.
Air intake removed.
Nick
Thanks for your help Nick, Yea a good step by step guide would be really handy but your post above does give me something to work with.
I managed to spend some time on the car today about an hour or so and removed the off side engine mount,It was a bit of a fiddle but it's out.
So now I have the hard one, the near side to remove. I think I will cut down the bolt threads that go through the chassis to allow the mount to come out easier. I guess I will need to invest in a Dremell as there is no way I can fit my Angle grinder in there.
I hated jacking up the engine high as I worry about the stresses it is causing on other components. God knows what It will be like when I have to jack it up and move the engine towards the offside to allow the nearside mount to Sqqqqqeeese out.
But with one engine mount out there is no going back now so I will order two new engine mounts tomorrow and try and remove the nearside engine mount in the next few days.
I managed to spend some time on the car today about an hour or so and removed the off side engine mount,It was a bit of a fiddle but it's out.
So now I have the hard one, the near side to remove. I think I will cut down the bolt threads that go through the chassis to allow the mount to come out easier. I guess I will need to invest in a Dremell as there is no way I can fit my Angle grinder in there.
I hated jacking up the engine high as I worry about the stresses it is causing on other components. God knows what It will be like when I have to jack it up and move the engine towards the offside to allow the nearside mount to Sqqqqqeeese out.
But with one engine mount out there is no going back now so I will order two new engine mounts tomorrow and try and remove the nearside engine mount in the next few days.
Ummhhh,
Hi George,
I don't find these so tricky. You will need to keep the engine mobile in the bay so air box off. The power steering pump on my Tuscan, now chucked away, stopped the sideways shift needed to feed the mounts in.
I would, remove wheels, battery off, air box off, power steering pump off (but still piped), jack engine, mount bolts out and at least podger with an old screw driver, mounts off chassis, podgers out, shift and wiggle to allow the mounts out one at a time. Note while you are doing this the whole thing is on the jack which means you are balancing on the sump....
I have done a few of these and yes trimming the studs makes it easier but they do go in either way. The trick is to have the engine mobile in the bay. I have always done these form the top and side, not underneath, well trusting the memory but sure mainly from the top. I move the engines around with a lump of wood wrapped in carpet so as not to chisel off the power coating from chassis rails. While they are both off you can go down as well as up with the engine, it all helps!
And just to make you feel better....
I am working outside at the moment (garage not big enough), engine and box out and now taking all wishbones etc off for powder coating. You are not the only one crawling around under a car on stands.
Cheers
J
Hi George,
I don't find these so tricky. You will need to keep the engine mobile in the bay so air box off. The power steering pump on my Tuscan, now chucked away, stopped the sideways shift needed to feed the mounts in.
I would, remove wheels, battery off, air box off, power steering pump off (but still piped), jack engine, mount bolts out and at least podger with an old screw driver, mounts off chassis, podgers out, shift and wiggle to allow the mounts out one at a time. Note while you are doing this the whole thing is on the jack which means you are balancing on the sump....
I have done a few of these and yes trimming the studs makes it easier but they do go in either way. The trick is to have the engine mobile in the bay. I have always done these form the top and side, not underneath, well trusting the memory but sure mainly from the top. I move the engines around with a lump of wood wrapped in carpet so as not to chisel off the power coating from chassis rails. While they are both off you can go down as well as up with the engine, it all helps!
And just to make you feel better....
I am working outside at the moment (garage not big enough), engine and box out and now taking all wishbones etc off for powder coating. You are not the only one crawling around under a car on stands.
Cheers
J
I have managed to remove both engine mounts, I did have to use a dremmel to cut the threads of the N/S mount which saved me I am sure a lot of time getting the mount out.
So hopefully time permitting I will get both the new mounts fitted over the weekend and get the car back on the road and see if my knocking noise has stopped!.
So hopefully time permitting I will get both the new mounts fitted over the weekend and get the car back on the road and see if my knocking noise has stopped!.
Update, Well this has taken longer than I thought life and Christmas got in the way.
I managed to get the mounts out and replace them with new ones but I managed to put them on upside down which meant the bottom bolts wouldn't line up. I left it as this point and enjoyed Christmas.
Yesterday I revisited it and removed the engine mounts again and fitted them the correct way up. It is now all bolted up and the job can be considered complete.
The car has been on an Accumate charger for the last 2 months via the cigarette lighter but when I went to start it the engine wouldn't turn over as there was not enough power in the battery. The Accumate charger confirms that the battery has very little charge. This seems strange as it has been on charge all this time so something not quite right. Is it possible the cigarette lighter socket is the issue ,fuse perhaps?.I will have a look tonight as I would like to get the car driven asap to check that the knocking noise that led me to replace the engine mounts has gone. Lets hope so.
I also fitted a new radiator in between changing over the engine mounts as the old one was leaking.
I managed to get the mounts out and replace them with new ones but I managed to put them on upside down which meant the bottom bolts wouldn't line up. I left it as this point and enjoyed Christmas.
Yesterday I revisited it and removed the engine mounts again and fitted them the correct way up. It is now all bolted up and the job can be considered complete.
The car has been on an Accumate charger for the last 2 months via the cigarette lighter but when I went to start it the engine wouldn't turn over as there was not enough power in the battery. The Accumate charger confirms that the battery has very little charge. This seems strange as it has been on charge all this time so something not quite right. Is it possible the cigarette lighter socket is the issue ,fuse perhaps?.I will have a look tonight as I would like to get the car driven asap to check that the knocking noise that led me to replace the engine mounts has gone. Lets hope so.
I also fitted a new radiator in between changing over the engine mounts as the old one was leaking.
Hi Scotty, I had the battery replaced when I had the engine rebuilt which was just over 2 years ago so In theory it should still be ok. I am going to remove it and put it on charge for a day and see what happens.
Scotty you might be able to advise me which terminal do I remove first on the battery, and will I have any issues with the alarm/imobiliser. I don't want to fix one issue only to find I have created a few more which is generally what happens with me!!!!
Scotty you might be able to advise me which terminal do I remove first on the battery, and will I have any issues with the alarm/imobiliser. I don't want to fix one issue only to find I have created a few more which is generally what happens with me!!!!
natben said:
Hi Scotty, I had the battery replaced when I had the engine rebuilt which was just over 2 years ago so In theory it should still be ok. I am going to remove it and put it on charge for a day and see what happens.
Scotty you might be able to advise me which terminal do I remove first on the battery, and will I have any issues with the alarm/imobiliser. I don't want to fix one issue only to find I have created a few more which is generally what happens with me!!!!
My cerb is always left isolated, remove the negative first and make sure the cars alarm is disarmed before you remove the power and it should be fine.Scotty you might be able to advise me which terminal do I remove first on the battery, and will I have any issues with the alarm/imobiliser. I don't want to fix one issue only to find I have created a few more which is generally what happens with me!!!!
Check your battery levels as well before charging, hope its OK, I need a new battery mine is starting to struggle, same one I got with it so 3+ years at least.
scotty_d said:
It will never end, seem to think the same myself just now 
I'll second that Scotty, i've foolishly just updated a spreadsheet i keep detailing parts bought and work done on my Tuscan (whether by me or an external garage), this also includes RFL and insurance. I've spent over twice as much on the Tuscan over 15mths than i did on my Chimaera over 3yrs.... staggering.
I have spent almost the same as the purchase price since I bought the car over 4/5 years ago. It's probably the reason I haven't sold it. I want to get my money's worth out of it and I dont want someone else getting the benifit of all my spend.
Edited by natben on Tuesday 21st January 15:56
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