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Hi All,
Hopefully not too far off Tuscan ownership... we shall see.
In the meantime, I had a question. I see a number of people who put the Chevy small-block in their Tuscans. I can personally understand the reasons for doing that (although I don't intend to debate them in this thread!) but I wondered why nobody has tried putting a Rover V8 in a Tuscan... is it a simple case of it won't fit?
And has anyone put the AJP8 in one? Or similar story?
Thanks all!
Hopefully not too far off Tuscan ownership... we shall see.
In the meantime, I had a question. I see a number of people who put the Chevy small-block in their Tuscans. I can personally understand the reasons for doing that (although I don't intend to debate them in this thread!) but I wondered why nobody has tried putting a Rover V8 in a Tuscan... is it a simple case of it won't fit?
And has anyone put the AJP8 in one? Or similar story?
Thanks all!
An RV8 in a Tuscan is a pretty pointless exercise. It's much older tech, way less powerful and these days no more reliable. If you're going to go to the hassle and expense if an engine swap then an LS or similar makes the most sense as its a serious performance and durability upgrade over anything else, inclusive of the AJP8.
As said it like a step backwards in this day and age, now I would love a ajp mk1 Tuscan
The cost to overhaul a sp6 next to fitting a rv8 would not add up plus less power getting 400+bhp from a sp6 is fairly easy, much more costly from the rover.
However a turbo rv8 Tuscan I would love to see that
The cost to overhaul a sp6 next to fitting a rv8 would not add up plus less power getting 400+bhp from a sp6 is fairly easy, much more costly from the rover.
However a turbo rv8 Tuscan I would love to see that
Alexdaredevils said:
Step back from a speed 6?
I'd rather a steam engine ,
Came to the right place to get flamed then with that statement I'd rather a steam engine ,
Having a rv8 a ajp and a sp6 in the house hold it is light year ahead of the old Buick
sp6 is far more powerful and torque out the box than the rv8 Have you driven one to make your statement?
Any way I thought you were going ford cast lead as heavy as Jupiter route?
The Ajp is the best of the 3 anyways
Edited by scotty_d on Wednesday 11th September 10:26
Alexdaredevils said:
Step back from a speed 6?
G
I'd rather a steam engine ,
Alex, please explain your comment. G
I'd rather a steam engine ,
Have you owned a SP6 engined TVR
Have you done any miles in a SP6 engined TVR 2-3000 miles
You might want to explain why you would rather have a steam engine because you comment is coming across as very ignorant. So it would be good if you could explain what you mean.
IMO Speed 6 is the best engine for a Tuscan. It really suits the car with oodles of power that just keeps coming even at silly speeds, yet around town it will bumble along like a boggo family car
It needs more revs than an RV8 to come alive, but when its alive its awesome.
It went from the G33 with RV8 power to a Tuscan with Speed 6 power. Both cars had similar performance to 60, but once over 80mph the Tuscan could eat the G33 for breakfast and still be hungry
Speed 6 is more dramatic at every level, its newer technology you can get a 100,000 mile 5 year warranty, its the right engine for the car.
I think you may realise by now that I like the Speed 6. The main issues are heat management around the cats and relatively high servicing costs (a Porsche 997 has 20k mile service interval, a Speed 6 is 6000 miles)
It needs more revs than an RV8 to come alive, but when its alive its awesome.
It went from the G33 with RV8 power to a Tuscan with Speed 6 power. Both cars had similar performance to 60, but once over 80mph the Tuscan could eat the G33 for breakfast and still be hungry
Speed 6 is more dramatic at every level, its newer technology you can get a 100,000 mile 5 year warranty, its the right engine for the car.
I think you may realise by now that I like the Speed 6. The main issues are heat management around the cats and relatively high servicing costs (a Porsche 997 has 20k mile service interval, a Speed 6 is 6000 miles)
No I haven't owned one
Lets be realistic for a minute, do you guys really think you have a cracking engine? And 100% not worried about blowing it?
Every person I know with a speed 6 that hasn't had a rebuild is clenching there teeth waiting for it to blow,
The others I know who have had a rebuild....... Well speaks for it's self really
F1 cars are using pneumatic valve control FYI
Agree with the above the new ford V8's are a cracking engine (coyote?)
Lets be realistic for a minute, do you guys really think you have a cracking engine? And 100% not worried about blowing it?
Every person I know with a speed 6 that hasn't had a rebuild is clenching there teeth waiting for it to blow,
The others I know who have had a rebuild....... Well speaks for it's self really
F1 cars are using pneumatic valve control FYI
Agree with the above the new ford V8's are a cracking engine (coyote?)
The fundamental design is good pity the Indian components were poor. Thats why I made sure I went for a car that had a power rebuild. i have covered nearly 5k in it since may and being out the country more than half that time pretty good going. It does not consume a drop of fluid and starts on the button every time, I would say it is cracking engine yes.
Alexdaredevils said:
m4tti said:
Probably for the best for you. All top flight Motorsport like F1 uses pushrod engines. Not. 
Fastest cars in the world are running push rod engines...... CockFor reliable fast road engines push rod does not appear to be the technology of choice.
Which of the fastest production road cars used pushrod engines? I would be intrigued to know.
1)Koenigsegg Agera R: 273mph/439.3kph (claimed).
2)Bugatti Veyron Super Sport: 267.8mph/430.9kph (certified).
3)Hennessey Venom GT: 265.7mph/427.6kph (certified)
blueg33 said:
Alexdaredevils said:
m4tti said:
Probably for the best for you. All top flight Motorsport like F1 uses pushrod engines. Not.
Fastest cars in the world are running push rod engines...... CockFor reliable fast road engines push rod does not appear to be the technology of choice.
Which of the fastest production road cars used pushrod engines? I would be intrigued to know.
1)Koenigsegg Agera R: 273mph/439.3kph (claimed).
2)Bugatti Veyron Super Sport: 267.8mph/430.9kph (certified).
3)Hennessey Venom GT: 265.7mph/427.6kph (certified)
Edited by m4tti on Wednesday 11th September 12:35
SILICONEKID343HP said:
Why are new speed six rebuilds still blowing up even with the upgraded parts ?
My only advice is to grow a bushy moustache to soak up the sweat above your top lip
It`s going to blow sooner or later ..
Rv8 have a history of slipping liners and sumps filling will bathroom sealant My only advice is to grow a bushy moustache to soak up the sweat above your top lip
It`s going to blow sooner or later ..Gentlemen, Gentlemen, order please
I guess we've got a few reasons as to why you might not put an RV8 in a TVR, but the second part of my question is - COULD it be done?
I have no intention of doing so myself (I need a TVR first), I just thought there would be SOMEONE who had done it as I can see the appeal myself of the "classic" Rover engine and sound, with the modern Tuscan looks.
I guess we've got a few reasons as to why you might not put an RV8 in a TVR, but the second part of my question is - COULD it be done?
I have no intention of doing so myself (I need a TVR first), I just thought there would be SOMEONE who had done it as I can see the appeal myself of the "classic" Rover engine and sound, with the modern Tuscan looks.
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