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So, I was out for my ex boss's leaving do tonight, and the bank's head of accounting/finance/whatever was along. He drives an Evo. Turbo-pretzel Mitsu VIII dogs-doo-das electro-shock radio-control special bling MTV Base edition or something. (Standard Evo VIII, actually, I think)
He'd had a bit to drink, and was acting like an arse, saying that he didn't believe a word I said, as there's no way the Tuscan would come close to his "super car", and that I was full of s
t. (His words)
My response... "If the road's wet, or has really fscked up tarmac, or there's some kind of slalom course or whatever, your car's faster - no question. But in perfect conditions, especially in a straight line, you simply don't have the best part of 400BHP/tonne. That's what I like, and I see why you'd want an Evo, too". That didn't sit too well with him, and he went on to spend the rest of the evening calling me a liar and an arse to half of the bank's senior staff (not a great career enhancing move for either one of us), and is now insisting on challenging me to a race around the office perimeter in front of everyone to prove a point.
I think this is stupid - it's a built up area, single lane, and no more than 40mph with lots of other traffic. If I floor it, I'll be doing serious triple figure speeds with people pulling out of car parks. Problem is, he's one of those annoying ters that just won't accept they can't win at everything. And he's not willing to do it on the dual carriageway less than a mile away (think it's quite obvious who'd be the winner at 180+...)
1. So, what do I do??? Act humble and say "ok, ok, your rice burning travesty's faster"?
Say "you're clearly an arse with the mentality of a 13 year old, cos only an arse would think it's important to risk their life and P&J to prove they're the cock-of-the-carpark"? Or sink to that playground level and toast the pk, showing him what a truly sorted lump of Blackpool's finest can do, publicly humbling him in front of a call centre full of beauties???
2. How many other people on here have whipped Evos? I've claimed more than a few Lancer scalps in the Cerb, but I've yet to come up against one in the Tuscan... Has anyone EVER been beaten by one in the dry?? Can't imagine much worse than racing that robo-car and losing.
Edited 'cos my post lager prose was grammatically defective
>>> Edited by J_S_G on Saturday 4th September 02:10
He'd had a bit to drink, and was acting like an arse, saying that he didn't believe a word I said, as there's no way the Tuscan would come close to his "super car", and that I was full of s
t. (His words) My response... "If the road's wet, or has really fscked up tarmac, or there's some kind of slalom course or whatever, your car's faster - no question. But in perfect conditions, especially in a straight line, you simply don't have the best part of 400BHP/tonne. That's what I like, and I see why you'd want an Evo, too". That didn't sit too well with him, and he went on to spend the rest of the evening calling me a liar and an arse to half of the bank's senior staff (not a great career enhancing move for either one of us), and is now insisting on challenging me to a race around the office perimeter in front of everyone to prove a point.
I think this is stupid - it's a built up area, single lane, and no more than 40mph with lots of other traffic. If I floor it, I'll be doing serious triple figure speeds with people pulling out of car parks. Problem is, he's one of those annoying t
ers that just won't accept they can't win at everything. And he's not willing to do it on the dual carriageway less than a mile away (think it's quite obvious who'd be the winner at 180+...) 1. So, what do I do??? Act humble and say "ok, ok, your rice burning travesty's faster"?
Say "you're clearly an arse with the mentality of a 13 year old, cos only an arse would think it's important to risk their life and P&J to prove they're the cock-of-the-carpark"? Or sink to that playground level and toast the pk, showing him what a truly sorted lump of Blackpool's finest can do, publicly humbling him in front of a call centre full of beauties??? 2. How many other people on here have whipped Evos? I've claimed more than a few Lancer scalps in the Cerb, but I've yet to come up against one in the Tuscan... Has anyone EVER been beaten by one in the dry?? Can't imagine much worse than racing that robo-car and losing.
Edited 'cos my post lager prose was grammatically defective
>>> Edited by J_S_G on Saturday 4th September 02:10
The fact this tw*t wants to race shows you've shaken him up and dented his ego.
Leave it at that. You've won.
In reality your colleagues will be thinking this guy is a total tw*t acting like a spotty-teen chav.
Your reaction will confirm to them whether you are a similar or a more mature level-headed type of guy.
Racing fors sake.
Gimme a break, I'm suprised he didnt ask you outside for a bout of playground fisticuffs
Leave it at that. You've won.
In reality your colleagues will be thinking this guy is a total tw*t acting like a spotty-teen chav.
Your reaction will confirm to them whether you are a similar or a more mature level-headed type of guy.
Racing for
s sake. Gimme a break, I'm suprised he didnt ask you outside for a bout of playground fisticuffsCheers guys, glad you're of the same opinion as me. 
Honestly thought that I'd escaped from that kind of behaviour years ago (in the workplace at least). Saddens me that someone in their mid 40s still has such a childish outlook and drives.
Wonder if I can get some racing game for the office PS2 that has both cars in...
Honestly thought that I'd escaped from that kind of behaviour years ago (in the workplace at least). Saddens me that someone in their mid 40s still has such a childish outlook and drives. Wonder if I can get some racing game for the office PS2 that has both cars in...
You lose - you lose, you win - you lose, vis-as-vis work I mean, sounds like the guy won't live it down and would take it out on you at work..!
Wasn't there a thread here once-upon-a-time with a 1/4 mile simulator? Tuscan was in there, probably the Evo too. Show him those results he'll probably think twice about trying it for real! Maybe he's a PHer and already seen it! Maybe he's already seen this thread too!
Good luck!
Wasn't there a thread here once-upon-a-time with a 1/4 mile simulator? Tuscan was in there, probably the Evo too. Show him those results he'll probably think twice about trying it for real! Maybe he's a PHer and already seen it! Maybe he's already seen this thread too!
Good luck!
Had a 'play' with an Evo VIII FQ-somethingorother the other night on some empty roads (that admittedly I know very well) after he blatted past me at warp speed. Yes, it was a very fast car with impressive handling on the twisties, but when I eventually turned off to go home he was *behind* me...
I have recently traded up from a seiously tuned Evo to the Tuscan in the past few months and yesterday took the Tuscan for a blast around familiar ground in the lake district.
I have to say that to put it mildly I was shocked by the results.
I always thought the Evo was good on the twisty stuff and bearing in mind it had £3.5k of suspension on it, the Tuscan would have left it for dead.
The steering responce, throttle response and general feel of the turn in etc not to mention outright grip was outstanding. The only difference to standard being a set of Avo adjustables all round and geometry settings from Joolz.
Top car TOP FUN.
I have to say that to put it mildly I was shocked by the results.
I always thought the Evo was good on the twisty stuff and bearing in mind it had £3.5k of suspension on it, the Tuscan would have left it for dead.
The steering responce, throttle response and general feel of the turn in etc not to mention outright grip was outstanding. The only difference to standard being a set of Avo adjustables all round and geometry settings from Joolz.
Top car TOP FUN.
James, don't stoop to his level. Claim the moral victory by not giving in to his childish and downright dangerous suggestion.
We all know that in a straight line any Tuscan would whoop the arse off any Evo. A Tuscan on properly set up Nitrons in dry conditions with a half decent driver would almost certainly whoop an Evo on the twisties as well.
I have had a couple of tussles with Evos (there seem to be a lot around here) on dual carriageways, motorway slip roads etc... Yes, they are fast but not as fast as my Tuscan.
We all know that in a straight line any Tuscan would whoop the arse off any Evo. A Tuscan on properly set up Nitrons in dry conditions with a half decent driver would almost certainly whoop an Evo on the twisties as well.
I have had a couple of tussles with Evos (there seem to be a lot around here) on dual carriageways, motorway slip roads etc... Yes, they are fast but not as fast as my Tuscan.
I guess if you really wanted to prove the point, just throw some stats at him and walk away. You can get the 0-60, top speed, bhp, power:weight ratio stuff easily enough on both cars. No need to prove anything else at all - you don't need a race.
I suppose this would still be taking the bait a bit - but this guy does indeed sound like a complete 'banker' and worthy of his title in the fullest sense.
I suppose this would still be taking the bait a bit - but this guy does indeed sound like a complete 'banker' and worthy of his title in the fullest sense.
TUS 373 said:
I guess if you really wanted to prove the point, just throw some stats at him and walk away. You can get the 0-60, top speed, bhp, power:weight ratio stuff easily enough on both cars. No need to prove anything else at all - you don't need a race.
I suppose this would still be taking the bait a bit - but this guy does indeed sound like a complete 'banker' and worthy of his title in the fullest sense.
yup, email the stats to him, copy to the rest of the company.No no no. You can have so much more fun with him:
1) Find a sympathetic traffic cop (OK so it might be easier to find rocking horse poo but you know what I mean)
2) Agree to the challenge and get a time and date
3) On said day, line up on the road, rev it up a bit and get ready for the off
4) GO! Or at least for him. Let him hoon away into the distance. Where your friendly traffic cop is waiting with Laser in hand.
5) Drive smugly by at 5mph under the limit, complete lap, return to call centre looking like a man rather than an arse as he gets done for 80 in a 40 or whatever.
6) Go down pub and laugh. With any luck he'll end up with no license. Serves him right for being an arse.
Sorted.
Rob
1) Find a sympathetic traffic cop (OK so it might be easier to find rocking horse poo but you know what I mean)
2) Agree to the challenge and get a time and date
3) On said day, line up on the road, rev it up a bit and get ready for the off
4) GO! Or at least for him. Let him hoon away into the distance. Where your friendly traffic cop is waiting with Laser in hand.
5) Drive smugly by at 5mph under the limit, complete lap, return to call centre looking like a man rather than an arse as he gets done for 80 in a 40 or whatever.
6) Go down pub and laugh. With any luck he'll end up with no license. Serves him right for being an arse.
Sorted.
Rob
dont do it !
offer him to a track day to prove that he can really drive (he cant if he has to rely on all that electrickery anyway!)
they are quick on a B road...and on track (if you know what youre doing)...but from the sounds of it, hes just a tw@ who thinks he can drive becuase hes got 'a fast car' ...its about 4secs slower to a ton than youre Tuscan...jeez ...offer him to a Santa Pod run what ya brung day...anything other than a public road.
as for seeing them off - well in the Tusan - no...its been in Blackpool for the majority of my ownership experience so far....but in the Elise then yes - seen off a few Evo III and Scooby WRXPPPSTIDADADA's etc..mostly due to the drivers thinking that the car will drive itself ...and believing that a great magazine review turns you into Schumacher as soon as you are behind the wheel
offer him to a track day to prove that he can really drive (he cant if he has to rely on all that electrickery anyway!)
they are quick on a B road...and on track (if you know what youre doing)...but from the sounds of it, hes just a tw@ who thinks he can drive becuase hes got 'a fast car' ...its about 4secs slower to a ton than youre Tuscan...jeez ...offer him to a Santa Pod run what ya brung day...anything other than a public road.
as for seeing them off - well in the Tusan - no...its been in Blackpool for the majority of my ownership experience so far
....but in the Elise then yes - seen off a few Evo III and Scooby WRXPPPSTIDADADA's etc..mostly due to the drivers thinking that the car will drive itself ...and believing that a great magazine review turns you into Schumacher as soon as you are behind the wheel Gassing Station | Tuscan | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff