Driving a 997 GT3 MkII without the big rear wing?
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Please read on before flaming me 
I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
Have you thought about a Gen II Carrera S with PDK and Power Kit? 408BHP - 0-60 in 4.4 or less IIRC
You could get it in Macedamia for a more stealth look
Porsche Website said:
Engine upgrade to 300 kW (408 bhp). Comprises modified cylinder heads, carbon-fibre air filter casing (upper part), new double resonance intake manifold, sports exhaust system featuring specially designed twin dual-tube tailpipes and modified engine management.
Sounds fun...You could get it in Macedamia for a more stealth look
Edited by 98C4S on Thursday 3rd December 17:49
Yep, that understated grey makes all the difference.
Well it's more subtle than Guards red !!
Don't think I'd mess with the rear spoiler on a GT3. Could be a bit like fitting 17" wheels.
Agree the latest spoiler is a bit 'in your face'. I still think the original 997 GT3 is nicer looking.
Yes, you could spec a 997'S' to be more sporting, but it wouldn't be the 'real thing', and a real 997GT3 (mk1 or 2) will definitely retain its value far better.
Agree the latest spoiler is a bit 'in your face'. I still think the original 997 GT3 is nicer looking.
Yes, you could spec a 997'S' to be more sporting, but it wouldn't be the 'real thing', and a real 997GT3 (mk1 or 2) will definitely retain its value far better.
Thanks for the comments, chaps.
I'm well aware that there is an effect on aerodynamic balance but wonder how big it will actually be on today's speed limit infested roads.
Swapping the 3 wing with a regular S one is easy work for my OPC and I would put on the 3 wing again for resale (or if I went hooning on the German autobahn).
I'm well aware that there is an effect on aerodynamic balance but wonder how big it will actually be on today's speed limit infested roads.
Swapping the 3 wing with a regular S one is easy work for my OPC and I would put on the 3 wing again for resale (or if I went hooning on the German autobahn).
Dr S said:
Please read on before flaming me
I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
One fell off of a cup car during a race and aparently didnt make a difference to the lap time. That probably tells you all you need to know.I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
Steve Rance said:
Dr S said:
Please read on before flaming me
I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
One fell off of a cup car during a race and aparently didnt make a difference to the lap time. That probably tells you all you need to know.I'm thinking of replacing my current 997S which is my daily drive as it's mileage is getting rather high by now. There are two options on my mind, either a MkII 997S or a MkII 7GT3.
Ideally I'd want the GT3 as it's a much more direct driving experience and a true step up from my 997S. However, I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
Now my OPC would be willing to (inofficially) replace the original GT3 wing with a standard Carrera wing so it looks more toned down. I know that this unsettles dynamic balance, especially at higher speeds and costs some bhp due to the lack of ram air effect. Given that I would not track the car (I race instead) and mostly drive it on speed regulated roads, I assume it would not be a big issue.
Anyone on here has any experience or educated views on this? Thanks, Dr S
Anyway, they had a 997 C2S with Powerkit and a GT3 and the lap times were almost identical.
AS for the OP's question in removing a spoiler from a GT3 - Blasphemous!!!
Edited by Wanta996Gotta on Friday 4th December 10:59
Dr S said:
I use my current car also to visit clients and they are fine with it as it's just another 911. A GT3 with its big wing is a different story as it's a very obivious and flashy car.
I must admit, I'm amazed that your clients would be fine with a standard Carrera but the GT3 would be a problem, but you know them far better than I do I suppose.I'd vote for the subtle colour, and if that isn't enough, employ some bird to do this next to your car...
Grinnders said:
Dr S's Clients said:
What spoiler?
I've a cup car and mine got snagged in a GT Cup race at Brands GP such that it was hanging off and definitely not doing any downforce stuff. I couldn't tell until I saw it afterwards. Granted I'm not god's gift to racing drivers, but I'm only a bit off the best Cup car pace. So, I think bugger all impact in reality for everyday activity. At 150mph entering a super fast corner and driving on the ragged edge, maybe a difference, but how much of that do you have planned!
I think go for your plan and keep the wing in the garage for resale time. If you would feel less comfortable with the wing on then you'll probably drive it less and what's the point in that!
I think go for your plan and keep the wing in the garage for resale time. If you would feel less comfortable with the wing on then you'll probably drive it less and what's the point in that!
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