Porsche 993 Turbo - Price Ponder
Discussion
Been looking through the classified and various other resources for some time now. I have noticed that 993 Turbos are available from a starting price of around £32k. I am aware that the figure more than doubles for the right car and that £32k probably means there is something wrong, but what about cars around the 35k-37k mark?
I seem to recall a thread somewhere that said that 993 T's at this price aren't a smart buy. Cars are tired and need work...
Now, while I agree with the school of thought that advocates if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys... there is some debate to be had about this!
Obviously, there are bargains out there, and obviously someone could sell a superb car at a steal. However, in collective experience, is there a price which just leads to a (correct) supposition that the car is not worth it?
There are a couple of examples on autotrader under 40k that look sound on paper?
The PH classified has the Verdi car which STILL hasn't sold.
The burning question is this: if I have 35K is it enough for a 993tt without having to pour more money in?
I seem to recall a thread somewhere that said that 993 T's at this price aren't a smart buy. Cars are tired and need work...
Now, while I agree with the school of thought that advocates if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys... there is some debate to be had about this!
Obviously, there are bargains out there, and obviously someone could sell a superb car at a steal. However, in collective experience, is there a price which just leads to a (correct) supposition that the car is not worth it?
There are a couple of examples on autotrader under 40k that look sound on paper?
The PH classified has the Verdi car which STILL hasn't sold.
The burning question is this: if I have 35K is it enough for a 993tt without having to pour more money in?
something i've been pondering myself of late....
came to the conclusion that the downward pressure through the relative over-supply of 996 turbos loitering around the £40k makes makes it difficult for all but the very best 993s (last of the aircooled and all that gubbins - whatever...
) very difficult to justify at similar money....
the market just doesn't seem to be there for them, else that one at Verdis would surely have sold...
All IMHO -
BERGS
and i got away without mentioning beards
came to the conclusion that the downward pressure through the relative over-supply of 996 turbos loitering around the £40k makes makes it difficult for all but the very best 993s (last of the aircooled and all that gubbins - whatever...
) very difficult to justify at similar money.... the market just doesn't seem to be there for them, else that one at Verdis would surely have sold...
All IMHO -
BERGS
and i got away without mentioning beards
Am sure a good inspection on a car in the lower tier of the 993tt market would show up any nasties?
The main things to check are if / when the turbos have been refurbed (£1.5k), when clutch last changed (£1k), if shockers replaced (£1 - 2.5k), and of course general service history. All this should be evident via invoices in the file?! At higher miles (> 90/100k miles) you *might* need a top end rebuild (£3 - 5k I think), which can be factored into any haggling I guess .... a compression test would reveal this. Plus of course any paint that may need doing, brakes, etc.
So I guess you have to take each individual car on its own merits I think? £35k should be feasible to get a decent car prob via a private sale. Also, remember (and I say this from experience), all the 993tt's are getting on somewhat so bits simply wear out as time goes on ... irrespective of mileage and how cherished the car may seem.
HTH
Martyn.
The main things to check are if / when the turbos have been refurbed (£1.5k), when clutch last changed (£1k), if shockers replaced (£1 - 2.5k), and of course general service history. All this should be evident via invoices in the file?! At higher miles (> 90/100k miles) you *might* need a top end rebuild (£3 - 5k I think), which can be factored into any haggling I guess .... a compression test would reveal this. Plus of course any paint that may need doing, brakes, etc.
So I guess you have to take each individual car on its own merits I think? £35k should be feasible to get a decent car prob via a private sale. Also, remember (and I say this from experience), all the 993tt's are getting on somewhat so bits simply wear out as time goes on ... irrespective of mileage and how cherished the car may seem.
HTH
Martyn.
Edited by MOD500 on Friday 11th May 12:55
It doesn't matter what you pay for the car, the miles or how many owners it's had. I know of a couple of low mileage high priced cars that have had engine rebuilds (£10K +)
You can only say if a car has been good value or not once you've sold it and you tot up the total cost of ownership. Keep £5K in your bin incase of emergency and you'll be fine.
Buy on condition
Henry (sorry, I mean Alan)
You can only say if a car has been good value or not once you've sold it and you tot up the total cost of ownership. Keep £5K in your bin incase of emergency and you'll be fine.
Buy on condition
Henry (sorry, I mean Alan)
Buy the car on condition and history and have it inspected, remember that Turbo's are generally more reliable due to being over engineered, though obviously any car can be abused but that should be reflected in the car.
Why do I say this because I was perhaps lucky and bought a 65k LHD Turbo for £28k, 20 months later I have spent £1800 on maintenance and £1200 of that was sorting out the issues picked up in the inspection ie replacing all brake discs, sorting weeping cams etc and I left them for a year before doing. Since I purchased obviously one £300 service and £300 MAF sensor is the only problem I have had. I would describe mine as in very good condition and I would hope so would most people who have come across it in there travels.
Theres £150 of paintwork and a door strap issue still to do, which I will do sometime so the cars are out there if you take your time and keep your eyes open to any issues and cost them accordingly and you should be fine.
Outside of this I have blown £1000 on some RUF wheels and £600 on a RS chip but thats more to do with the slippery side of owning these supercars.
I'm sure a few other owners or past owners like very sideways have also had £35k or less cars and have similar experiences with the slippery slope being the expensive side of the ownership and not the maintenance as long as you allow £2k pa over a few years you should be fine.
Why do I say this because I was perhaps lucky and bought a 65k LHD Turbo for £28k, 20 months later I have spent £1800 on maintenance and £1200 of that was sorting out the issues picked up in the inspection ie replacing all brake discs, sorting weeping cams etc and I left them for a year before doing. Since I purchased obviously one £300 service and £300 MAF sensor is the only problem I have had. I would describe mine as in very good condition and I would hope so would most people who have come across it in there travels.
Theres £150 of paintwork and a door strap issue still to do, which I will do sometime so the cars are out there if you take your time and keep your eyes open to any issues and cost them accordingly and you should be fine.
Outside of this I have blown £1000 on some RUF wheels and £600 on a RS chip but thats more to do with the slippery side of owning these supercars.
I'm sure a few other owners or past owners like very sideways have also had £35k or less cars and have similar experiences with the slippery slope being the expensive side of the ownership and not the maintenance as long as you allow £2k pa over a few years you should be fine.
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