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Has he been ripped off ? my mate has a 2001 996 C4 and went for a routine top up of gas at a porsche specialist , and came away with an seven hundred pounds bill for two new condensers and a re-gas . although it had been blowing out warm air he feels he may have been DONE . Has any one encountered this problem before and is he just being paranoid ????
Tricky - last time I was on hot air only all I needed was a re-gas, but as you say it is an easy con if you are not on the spot to check the job.
cecaro said:
Has he been ripped off ? my mate has a 2001 996 C4 and went for a routine top up of gas at a porsche specialist , and came away with an seven hundred pounds bill for two new condensers and a re-gas . although it had been blowing out warm air he feels he may have been DONE . Has any one encountered this problem before and is he just being paranoid ????
cecaro said:
Has he been ripped off ? my mate has a 2001 996 C4 and went for a routine top up of gas at a porsche specialist , and came away with an seven hundred pounds bill for two new condensers and a re-gas . although it had been blowing out warm air he feels he may have been DONE . Has any one encountered this problem before and is he just being paranoid ????
Did he authorise them to do the work??
Did he go in there and say "fix it" or did he go in there and say "call me and let me know what you're going to do before you do it."
You miss my point.
If he said "just fix it" then they have.
He didn't manage them properly.
The previous owner of my 996 got bills of £2k every time her serviced it.
Mine have been £600.
Go in, and tell them to ring you BEFORE they replace ANYTHING. Then write your instructions on the job sheet.
Edited by Vesuvius 996 on Tuesday 1st May 11:55
That is true - the two radiators in the side ducts collect rubbish in the furthest corners which in turn holds moisture which in turn corrodes the AC and coolant rads. OPC's need to hoover out the side ducts at every service and it's not a bad idea to do it yourself on a regular basis.
wanta996 said:
Routine top up of Gas?? £700? Whatever next with 911s?? Could someone please explain? I never saw this in the Service/Maintenence Costs PDf on there website.
Wait a minute. I bet you think that 911s are the only cars that require aircon regassing right?
No, they don't need it every year, but as with every car that has aircon, there will be a time when it will be needed.
(Obviously Bentley Continental's don't require aircon regassing because the condensers are recharged by the dylthium crystals in the boot...)
996`s generally don`t ever need "just a top up" of the refrigerant. It`s a sealed system and so if the pressure has dropped and the gas/lubricant dissapeared it has gone somewhere. That somewhere is into the atmosphere through the hole in your system. It may be a small hole and may take a while to run out again after a re-gas but ultimately your a/c system it like a car tyre. When it`s flat you`ve got a leak.
The front condensors (radiator-like items behind the air intakes in the front bumper) are the most common cause of the leak and it`s best practice to change them as a pair. They cost around £130 to £200 each to buy plus vat depending on make and source. You do sometimes find the engine rads which are located in the same area are also starting to leak when you get the condensors off and these need changing as well.
If the gas is left out of the system for any length of time then compressor can sieze up. The compressor won`t cut in with no gas in the system because the coolant gas also acts as a lubricant. Lack of activity and lubricant can damage the unit. Compressors can often be re-built and don`t necessarily need to be replaced new.
Gassing the system up is normally around £80 - 120 and there is labour for fitting the various parts and diagnosing the leak. A few ancillary items such a dye (to find the leak), oil, receiver/dryer, a cup of coffee and a stick bun for the tea break round off the final bill.
Hope that helps.
Henry
The front condensors (radiator-like items behind the air intakes in the front bumper) are the most common cause of the leak and it`s best practice to change them as a pair. They cost around £130 to £200 each to buy plus vat depending on make and source. You do sometimes find the engine rads which are located in the same area are also starting to leak when you get the condensors off and these need changing as well.
If the gas is left out of the system for any length of time then compressor can sieze up. The compressor won`t cut in with no gas in the system because the coolant gas also acts as a lubricant. Lack of activity and lubricant can damage the unit. Compressors can often be re-built and don`t necessarily need to be replaced new.
Gassing the system up is normally around £80 - 120 and there is labour for fitting the various parts and diagnosing the leak. A few ancillary items such a dye (to find the leak), oil, receiver/dryer, a cup of coffee and a stick bun for the tea break round off the final bill.
Hope that helps.
Henry
Edited by Henry-F on Tuesday 1st May 15:39
i bought my 1st 966TT last year in Aug, Air con worked fine, i use the car every week.
As its been getting hotter in the last couple of weeks i used it the 1st time this year ! have guess i got warm air. ! went down my friendly local garaged. They tested it - re gased - works great its Freeezzing ! Only £60 spent. What a good job.
As its been getting hotter in the last couple of weeks i used it the 1st time this year ! have guess i got warm air. ! went down my friendly local garaged. They tested it - re gased - works great its Freeezzing ! Only £60 spent. What a good job.
No aircon systems should ever require re-gassing unless they either leak (and have had the leaking part replaced) or have to be taken apart, in which case they should be put on a vacuum for 24 hours before being refilled to remove any moisture in the system. IF your OPC is telling you it requires "topping up" they're talking out of their arse.
The reason i know this is that i work for a major aircon / refrigeration company.
The reason i know this is that i work for a major aircon / refrigeration company.
Edited by Silent1 on Tuesday 1st May 17:45
Silent1 said:
No aircon systems should ever require re-gassing unless they either leak (and have had the leaking part replaced) or have to be taken apart, in which case they should be put on a vacuum for 24 hours before being refilled to remove any moisture in the system. IF your OPC is telling you it requires "topping up" they're talking out of their arse.
The reason i know this is that i work for a major aircon / refrigeration company.
The reason i know this is that i work for a major aircon / refrigeration company.
Edited by Silent1 on Tuesday 1st May 17:45
THAT IS GREAT INFORMATION
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