Carrera GT
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AndrewD

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7,659 posts

314 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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Pondering going down the route of bringing one over from the US, or since I'm moving to Switzerland shortly, finding one in Europe. I was wondering if the "extendable warranty" issue has been answered yet? I saw a lot of discussion a while back but didn't pick up anything definitive.

Mobile.de has lots at hugely varying prices, doesn't *seem* to depend on mileage or colour, whereas the US ones I've seen (only via autotrader.com) are more tightly spread ... thoughts?

Best
Andrew


Edited by AndrewD on Sunday 22 April 16:56

adamt

2,825 posts

282 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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I was surprised too, by the low prices on mobile, but most of the low ones are from US...

best,
adam

993rsr

3,677 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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There is no extendable warranty, the prices for US cars (converted to GBP) has risen in the last six months, partly due to 10+ cars coming back from the States to Europe, and also the last of the 'new' cars available in the States
being sold.

Price wise, expect to pay around £220kGBP (just looked, the cheapest on Autotrader £220k, most expensive low miles £250k) minimum for a US car back into Europe including VAT, lights converted, SVA tested etc. If the date the car left Europe is less than three years, you avoid the 10% duty. It is time consuming importing one, and there is a fair amount of paperwork, and the savings seem to have been eroded of late. You will not regret it however!


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Edited by 993rsr on Sunday 22 April 19:27

bergmeister

1,084 posts

274 months

Sunday 22nd April 2007
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On de the bronx car is some sort of scam,most of the cheaper cars are from dubia.But you will still have vat and duty,so not so cheap.Also probably a little sand blasted by now!
As rsr says,less than 3 years old no duty to pay.
The germans seem to be hanging on to there prices a bit.Also there vat is now 19%.

AndrewD

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314 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Thanks very much guys! The bronx one did look a bit odd
beer

I guess I'll keep on looking, not in any great rush.

I won't ask if you're enjoying yours!!!

Best,
Andrew

15hn

420 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.

gt

1,407 posts

288 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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15hn said:
Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.


I am also very interested in how this works.

Harry Flashman

21,920 posts

272 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Grey one drove past Wandsworth Common yesterday afternoon. Fabulous noise.

Mogulboy

3,066 posts

253 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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AndrewD said:
since I'm moving to Switzerland... I was wondering if the "extendable warranty" issue has been answered yet?


The simple answer is that you cannot get an official extended warranty on any Porsche in Switzerland - from the Boxster up - as far as I know. The importer simply dosen't offer them for some reason!

However, some things are changing later this year and Porsche AG has taken away the exclusive distributions rights away from AMAG who have been the official importer for the last 40+ years.

Remember that women only got the right to vote in CH in some cantons as in the 1980's so some things take a while to change around here....

AndrewD

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314 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Thanks Mogulboy. I'm guessing AMAG don't sell the warranties but have no problem honouring my (I think) pan-European Porsche UK warranty should the GT3 need anything doing...

Where are you based? I'll be in Kanton Zug.

Swiss politics is leaving me cold at the moment, all the talk of federal dog control laws, madness!

2something

2,145 posts

238 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Mogulboy said:
AndrewD said:
since I'm moving to Switzerland... I was wondering if the "extendable warranty" issue has been answered yet?


The simple answer is that you cannot get an official extended warranty on any Porsche in Switzerland - from the Boxster up - as far as I know. The importer simply dosen't offer them for some reason!

However, some things are changing later this year and Porsche AG has taken away the exclusive distributions rights away from AMAG who have been the official importer for the last 40+ years.

Remember that women only got the right to vote in CH in some cantons as in the 1980's so some things take a while to change around here....


This is probably an incredibly stupid question, but can't you just nip across the border to Germany and get a Porsche Warranty there ? Or do Swiss customs stop you at the border and fine you for importing a valuable warranty along with over 1/2 kilo of meat ?

993rsr

3,677 posts

279 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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gt said:
15hn said:
Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.


I am also very interested in how this works.


Basically you need documentation to prove the date the vehicle left Germany (the Porsche build sheet or bill or lading is sufficient) and then pass this to C&E when you pay the VAT and there will be no duty. It is essential this date is within three years of the date the vehicle arrives at port in the UK otherwise you will have to stump up the 10% duty.

Mogulboy

3,066 posts

253 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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I'm near Geneva.

I don't think you would have a problem exercising a claim under a pan-European warranty.

Keeping you UK based cover going, this might work if the car is registered abroad before coming here but I don't know.

I love Switzerland but they can be extremely tough at the borders and it is not unknown (although very rare) for them to check your log book to see if you have just had your car serviced abroad so they can tax you on the imported value!

15hn

420 posts

257 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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993rsr said:
gt said:
15hn said:
Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.


I am also very interested in how this works.


Basically you need documentation to prove the date the vehicle left Germany (the Porsche build sheet or bill or lading is sufficient) and then pass this to C&E when you pay the VAT and there will be no duty. It is essential this date is within three years of the date the vehicle arrives at port in the UK otherwise you will have to stump up the 10% duty.


Thanks for that.

Does anyone know what is involved on a US CGT for SVA?

Denis 965

17 posts

234 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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Don't forget that CH is out of European Union, so I don't kno if this 3 years works for VAT free import...

To import a car in Switzerland, normaly you pay a tax on the weight (not so much), plus a fix rate (let's call it file treatment), then they add this to the car price without VAT (converted to CHF) and apply the VAT (7.6 % currently).

You can avoid paying this import taxe (and the VAT) if you come from abroad with your own car (you have to proove that it was your for 6 month before moving).

Denis

bergmeister

1,084 posts

274 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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rear lights,change the led,s for the indicators red to orange.(or new rear lights at £900 each)
Adjust front lights to a flat beam.
Rear fog and switch,instead of 2 reverse lights
Possibly door mirror glass,depending on the inspector

gt

1,407 posts

288 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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993rsr said:
gt said:
15hn said:
Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.


I am also very interested in how this works.


Basically you need documentation to prove the date the vehicle left Germany (the Porsche build sheet or bill or lading is sufficient) and then pass this to C&E when you pay the VAT and there will be no duty. It is essential this date is within three years of the date the vehicle arrives at port in the UK otherwise you will have to stump up the 10% duty.



Thank you. **must resist temptation**

993rsr

3,677 posts

279 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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bergmeister said:
rear lights,change the led,s for the indicators red to orange.(or new rear lights at £900 each)
Adjust front lights to a flat beam.
Rear fog and switch,instead of 2 reverse lights (wiring already in place on both sides for the fog light and at the
dashboard switch)
Possibly door mirror glass,depending on the inspector

Letter from headlight manufacturer as the US lights do not have the correct EU markings, confirming the lights conform to EU standards.


adamt

2,825 posts

282 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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gt said:
993rsr said:
gt said:
15hn said:
Can someone just explain how the 3 year rule with import duty works. Thanks.


I am also very interested in how this works.


Basically you need documentation to prove the date the vehicle left Germany (the Porsche build sheet or bill or lading is sufficient) and then pass this to C&E when you pay the VAT and there will be no duty. It is essential this date is within three years of the date the vehicle arrives at port in the UK otherwise you will have to stump up the 10% duty.



Thank you. **must resist temptation**


So, if i understand this correctly, if the car is under 3 years old, you dont pay tax?

thanks,

adam

AndrewD

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7,659 posts

314 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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Duty no, VAT yes (as I understand it)