997 TT
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nosepicker

Original Poster:

40 posts

244 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Why are OPC's pushing Tiptronic rather than manual for 997 TT ?
Sales teams seem to be doing the same around the country. Anyone know why? Presume there is a target or commission bonus.
Also most demonstrators are Tip, hard to find a manual to try. Cars seem to be available within 3 months if you ask around.

rimmer

6,689 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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they have probably over stocked with tiptronics and want rid of them.

wrn

432 posts

259 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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I put a manual around Millbrook and it was great fun.

Dealers always make a lot more margin (%) on extras than the base cars... I guess that they have a fixed allocation of TTs (which are relatively easy to shift) so they might as well squeeze as much margin as possibly out of the cars that they do have available for sale.

I also remember when I ordered my TT (before I cancelled it!) that the transmission had to be specified well in advance... so they have probably had an unexpectedly high demand for manuals and are therefore having to shift more tips.

How's that for a bit of speculative thinking?!

nosepicker

Original Poster:

40 posts

244 months

Monday 23rd April 2007
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With Tip S less than 2K, so hard to believe it's a major part of their profit?
Either they have a surplus of auto-boxes to shift, or they need more future work for their service depts. On the used market after 2-3 years manuals always seem to attract better price, presumably as enthusiasts come on board instead of the S-class converters.
Anyway, why did you cancel your order wrn?

Grey Ghost

4,611 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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Seem to remember from the launch data that the tip box allowed the car to accelerate quicker than a manual version. Quite a bit of discussion on this at the time if you do a search.

Raven Flyer

1,645 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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Grey Ghost said:
Seem to remember from the launch data that the tip box allowed the car to accelerate quicker than a manual version. Quite a bit of discussion on this at the time if you do a search.


You need to drive a tip to realise that there is much more to it than just 0.1 sec, over such and such speeds.

Think of it as an automatic and you will have a better idea of why auto Porsches trade in at up to 10% less than their manual counterparts.

The gearbox is good, but its no manual.

Grey Ghost

4,611 posts

250 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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Raven Flyer said:
Grey Ghost said:
Seem to remember from the launch data that the tip box allowed the car to accelerate quicker than a manual version. Quite a bit of discussion on this at the time if you do a search.


You need to drive a tip to realise that there is much more to it than just 0.1 sec, over such and such speeds.

Think of it as an automatic and you will have a better idea of why auto Porsches trade in at up to 10% less than their manual counterparts.

The gearbox is good, but its no manual.


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clorenzen

3,840 posts

265 months

Tuesday 24th April 2007
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The reason why TipS are easier to get is because no one wants them. A proper sportscar has a manual shift. If you want a 997 TipS buy a Bentley Continental or a 500 SL.

wrn

432 posts

259 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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nosepicker said:
With Tip S less than 2K, so hard to believe it's a major part of their profit?
Either they have a surplus of auto-boxes to shift, or they need more future work for their service depts. On the used market after 2-3 years manuals always seem to attract better price, presumably as enthusiasts come on board instead of the S-class converters.
Anyway, why did you cancel your order wrn?

I cancelled my order because after putting a TT around Millbrook I decided that it simply didn't stir up enough excitement in me to warrant a six figure spend. My AMV8 provided a FAR greater sense of occasion - but unfortunately didn't work so had to go back after 6 months.

Just need to find a car that works and provides excitement... perhaps they are mutually exclusive.

bermyandy

2,050 posts

248 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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wrn said:
nosepicker said:
With Tip S less than 2K, so hard to believe it's a major part of their profit?
Either they have a surplus of auto-boxes to shift, or they need more future work for their service depts. On the used market after 2-3 years manuals always seem to attract better price, presumably as enthusiasts come on board instead of the S-class converters.
Anyway, why did you cancel your order wrn?

I cancelled my order because after putting a TT around Millbrook I decided that it simply didn't stir up enough excitement in me to warrant a six figure spend. My AMV8 provided a FAR greater sense of occasion - but unfortunately didn't work so had to go back after 6 months.

Just need to find a car that works and provides excitement... perhaps they are mutually exclusive.


wrn - out of interest, how did you hand the AM back? Any cost to you in this? OT i know, sorry!

loach

3,357 posts

246 months

Wednesday 25th April 2007
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wrn said:
I put a manual around Millbrook and it was great fun.

Dealers always make a lot more margin (%) on extras than the base cars... I guess that they have a fixed allocation of TTs (which are relatively easy to shift) so they might as well squeeze as much margin as possibly out of the cars that they do have available for sale.

I also remember when I ordered my TT (before I cancelled it!) that the transmission had to be specified well in advance... so they have probably had an unexpectedly high demand for manuals and are therefore having to shift more tips.

How's that for a bit of speculative thinking?!



Very accurate, I'd say.

rimmer

6,689 posts

236 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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I cancelled my order because after putting a TT around Millbrook I decided that it simply didn't stir up enough excitement in me to warrant a six figure spend. My AMV8 provided a FAR greater sense of occasion - but unfortunately didn't work so had to go back after 6 months.

Just need to find a car that works and provides excitement... perhaps they are mutually exclusive.[/quote]

have you thought about a gt3 or a gt2?

dealmaker

2,215 posts

284 months

Sunday 29th April 2007
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rimmer said:

I cancelled my order because after putting a TT around Millbrook I decided that it simply didn't stir up enough excitement in me to warrant a six figure spend. My AMV8 provided a FAR greater sense of occasion - but unfortunately didn't work so had to go back after 6 months.

Just need to find a car that works and provides excitement... perhaps they are mutually exclusive.


have you thought about a gt3 or a gt2?[/quote]

Yeah I cancelled my TT as well, after a full weekend with a manual, which I found immensley uninvolving/uninspiring (subsequent drives of a Tip proves that this is even more so!)

I've got my name on a 997GT2 now.