warranty consequences with aftermarket exhaust
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i am considering fitting an aftermarket system to my 996tt which has extended porsche warranty but have concerns over the effect it may have on any subsequent warranty claim.
porsche commented- any subsequent claim under the warranty would be discretionary and scrutinised if the event the exhaust could have contributed to the reason for the claim.
whilst i appreciate this is an open-ended question, what potentially could go wrong as a result of fitting an exhaust?
has anyone found themselves in this position??
thanks
porsche commented- any subsequent claim under the warranty would be discretionary and scrutinised if the event the exhaust could have contributed to the reason for the claim.
whilst i appreciate this is an open-ended question, what potentially could go wrong as a result of fitting an exhaust?
has anyone found themselves in this position??
thanks
OK so it wasn't on a porsche but I nearly fitted quad pipe aftermarket boxes on my SLK.
Luckily I changed my mind, as two months into ownership, one of the cats split.
System replaced FOC, but they would have told me to bugger off if I'd had the modded boxes.
£1200 thankyouverymuch.
Just something for you to consider.
Luckily I changed my mind, as two months into ownership, one of the cats split.
System replaced FOC, but they would have told me to bugger off if I'd had the modded boxes.
£1200 thankyouverymuch.
Just something for you to consider.
I am the biggest promoter of the OPC warranty on here.
If you get aftermarket exhausts, I think it extremely likely that they will blame engine problems on it, fold their arms, sit back and make you go to Court to enforce the warranty.
Morally this may not be right, but at the end of the day if they say no, the burden of proof will be on you.
I wouldn't risk it.
If you get aftermarket exhausts, I think it extremely likely that they will blame engine problems on it, fold their arms, sit back and make you go to Court to enforce the warranty.
Morally this may not be right, but at the end of the day if they say no, the burden of proof will be on you.
I wouldn't risk it.
It is risk, I would grant you.
But I have made a lot of modifications to my GT3 and OPC Guildford have still honoured warranty claims. More specifically, the engine has been re-mapped and it has an aftermarket exhaust, inter alia. Despite this, new coil packs have been covered under warranty.
I suspect if something more serious happened, I may have an issue, but I get the feeling that unless the problem is directly related to one of the modifications, they will do their best to be helpful.
The other point is that Porsche have agreed to extend the warranty (two years running) in full knowledge of these modifications - I have worked on the basis that full disclosure up front makes it easier to have the conversation down the track.
But, I will end where I started, it is a risk.
Kind regards
Steve
But I have made a lot of modifications to my GT3 and OPC Guildford have still honoured warranty claims. More specifically, the engine has been re-mapped and it has an aftermarket exhaust, inter alia. Despite this, new coil packs have been covered under warranty.
I suspect if something more serious happened, I may have an issue, but I get the feeling that unless the problem is directly related to one of the modifications, they will do their best to be helpful.
The other point is that Porsche have agreed to extend the warranty (two years running) in full knowledge of these modifications - I have worked on the basis that full disclosure up front makes it easier to have the conversation down the track.
But, I will end where I started, it is a risk.
Kind regards
Steve
When you say Porsche have agreed to extend the warranty, do you know that your dealer is actually tellng the underwriters about your mods.
Mapping is an all time no-no for any claims, against any piece of the drive train.
Its not worth paying £900 a year to have 6x £70 coil packs insured.
I'm also a big fan of the warranty, but you have to be realistic and appreciate what the underwriters are covering. I the exhaust produces no more power then it should be OK, except for the exhaust itself being covered, obviously.
Mapping is an all time no-no for any claims, against any piece of the drive train.
Its not worth paying £900 a year to have 6x £70 coil packs insured.
I'm also a big fan of the warranty, but you have to be realistic and appreciate what the underwriters are covering. I the exhaust produces no more power then it should be OK, except for the exhaust itself being covered, obviously.
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When you say Porsche have agreed to extend the warranty, do you know that your dealer is actually tellng the underwriters about your mods.
That is irrelevant. I am contracting with Porsche and how they lay off their risk / broke the risk is their business. I have documented the disclosure, and the OPC and I had a grown up conversation about the potential risk of future claims not be honoured. They treat me, as they should, as a good, long standing customer and I trust those relationships. In return, I am 100% honest with them and never "try it on" (and I'm not saying anyone here suggested that). Seems like a sound policy.
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Mapping is an all time no-no for any claims, against any piece of the drive train.
I assume that means you have evidence that every claim ever made with a mapped engine has failed? If not, you can hardly be so definitive. As I said, it is a risk, but I believe my OPC would consider the fact of any causal link between the mods and the problem at hand before deciding whether to honour the claim.
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Its not worth paying £900 a year to have 6x £70 coil packs insured.
I hardly said that (although the GT3 coil packs are rather more expensive). Most of the reason I keep the warranty is to protect against electrical faults, which can be pretty costly. I accept the risk of drivetrain faults not being covered.
Kind regards
Steve
Edited by stefan1 on Thursday 22 February 18:27
Don't forget the OPC gets paid for doing the warranty work, so they are hardly likely to try to refuse the jobs.
Although, large claims are more likely to be scrutinised by Porsche (or whoever ultimately backs the warranty and pays out the claims) - sometimes this will be simply the return of the faulty parts replaced, other times they may send someone to the OPC to inspect.
Although, large claims are more likely to be scrutinised by Porsche (or whoever ultimately backs the warranty and pays out the claims) - sometimes this will be simply the return of the faulty parts replaced, other times they may send someone to the OPC to inspect.
Evening all, I'm just about to / almost ready to pull the trigger on a 991.2 gt3 which has a akroprovic exhaust and at this moment it has no Porsche warranty. it has been for a vehicle health check at Porsche Reading and needs a set of plugs and aircon every thing else green but they did say it can't have a Porsche warranty due to the aftermarket exhaust do individual OPC's make that judgement call or is it a national Porsche policy not to offer a warranty when aftermarket items fitted? I have been offered a 6 month warrantywise one on the sale but not sure what they are like although reasonable good reviews .... in essence would you go for it or not. all comments appreciated and thanks in advance
They won't cover it. The car will need a 111 point check and one of the boxes is all Porsche parts. Photo attached from one I had that other day.
For those who say no problem. Maybe yes maybe no. If the car is in continual warrenty ( no 111 check ) then cover will be in place but I bet a warrenty condition is all Porsche parts. Now will you get found out ? Will the dealer play ball? Maybe. But contractually you won't be on the winning side
john-j4ty0 said:
Evening all, I'm just about to / almost ready to pull the trigger on a 991.2 gt3 which has a akroprovic exhaust and at this moment it has no Porsche warranty. it has been for a vehicle health check at Porsche Reading and needs a set of plugs and aircon every thing else green but they did say it can't have a Porsche warranty due to the aftermarket exhaust do individual OPC's make that judgement call or is it a national Porsche policy not to offer a warranty when aftermarket items fitted? I have been offered a 6 month warrantywise one on the sale but not sure what they are like although reasonable good reviews .... in essence would you go for it or not. all comments appreciated and thanks in advance
I bought a 991.1 in August this year - the vendor, who'd owned it for 4 years, didn't know it had an aftermarket rear box. Porsche refused a warranty on it and I pulled out of the sale. The vendor bought the correct part from Ebay (not expensive) had it fitted and the car now has the Porsche warranty and I own it.I wouldn't buy without the warranty and, in my experience so far, Porsche won't approve a warranty with non Porsche parts fitted.
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