Bet you wish you had a C4 today.....
Bet you wish you had a C4 today.....
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nodz17

Original Poster:

310 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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This morning was the first time I really felt the usefulness of the 4WD in my 993. And even then I had a couple of small slides.

How did everyone's cars get on in the snow, ice and salt....?

Ian964

534 posts

282 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Must admit I left the C2 at home this morning - 5:15am, 2" snow, 2 wheel drive, no traction control and Toyo R888s probably not a good idea.

magic torch

5,781 posts

252 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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What's snow and ice?

timmo

1,788 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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I have a Defender !

Bring it on ... nothing can stop that thing !


tim

kennyboy

641 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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BET YOU WISH YOU HAD A C4 TODAY..... or a 911TT!

My 993tt was fine, I made sure she was off boost most of the time - no problems, then again most of the snow and ice had gone in Leeds this morning.

I was quite looking forward to 'learning the chassis' at walking speeds but it didn't happen.

Geneve

4,018 posts

249 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Correct tyres make more difference than 2/4wd. But, in this country it isn't worth the bother of swapping to winter tyres for the odd bit of snow that only lasts 5 minutes.

Far better to hone one's driving skills. I'm off to do Porsche's Winter Driving Course at Tweng, near Obertauern in a few days driving Boxster/Caymans and 997s on their ice/snow circuit. Should be fun.

superlightr

12,920 posts

293 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Last year I found the 996tt a handful on a straight bit of road in a sudden snow fall .

Bit scary when your doing about 40mph and then you are skidding in a straight line on a duel carriage way.

I think the size of the wheels dont help. 4wd or not, if there is no grip there is no grip.

whoami

13,201 posts

270 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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superlightr said:
Last year I found the 996tt a handful on a straight bit of road in a sudden snow fall .

Bit scary when your doing about 40mph and then you are skidding in a straight line on a duel carriage way.

I think the size of the wheels dont help. 4wd or not, if there is no grip there is no grip.


Agreed.

and it's exactly the same on a Defender too.

cj.ok

346 posts

240 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Its not the snow and ice i fear its those that haven't a clue how to drive ploughing into my pride and joy.... or that idiot who stops on a hill in front of you when you've got your momentum!!!

Fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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magic torch said:
What's snow and ice?

I think its our entry for eurovision this year.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Fidgits said:
magic torch said:
What's snow and ice?

I think its our entry for eurovision this year.

Nah, it's a good night out

Fidgits

17,202 posts

259 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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BliarOut said:
Fidgits said:
magic torch said:
What's snow and ice?

I think its our entry for eurovision this year.

Nah, it's a good night out

who for? Kate Moss?

clarkeyjnr

382 posts

247 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Fidgits said:
BliarOut said:
Fidgits said:
magic torch said:
What's snow and ice?

I think its our entry for eurovision this year.

Nah, it's a good night out

who for? Kate Moss?

rofl

james s

1,620 posts

275 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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my 993 c4s was sliding around a bit on gritted roads - bit unnerving really. Might be time for some new rears

silver993tt

9,064 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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Geneve said:
Correct tyres make more difference than 2/4wd. But, in this country it isn't worth the bother of swapping to winter tyres for the odd bit of snow that only lasts 5 minutes.

Far better to hone one's driving skills. I'm off to do Porsche's Winter Driving Course at Tweng, near Obertauern in a few days driving Boxster/Caymans and 997s on their ice/snow circuit. Should be fun.



Actually that's the problem in the UK, most don't understand the reason for winter tyres. They are NOT just for snow. Their main purpose is in wet conditions at or below +7C. They provide far more grip when below this temperature , especially when the road is wet but also when it is dry. The efficiency of normal summer tyres drops off dramatically below this temp.

Most people in Northern Germany which has a similar climate to the south of the UK (not much snow) fit winter tyres between October and April. If you're involved in an accident and you don't have them fitted, you can be liable just for that fact.

Over here (in Germany) garages store sets of winter wheels over the summer for a nominal fee (and summer wheels over the winter) and it all works very well. This is also the same for Austria and probably other continental countries.


Edited by silver993tt on Wednesday 24th January 09:46

Pugsey

5,821 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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timmo said:
I have a Defender !

Bring it on ... nothing can stop that thing !


tim
Too right. Thought I'd have a laugh and take the GT3 down to the village for paper and milk this morning. MSCs and snow? My how I laughed. Mind you, cleared the lanes for everyone else - that front spoiler makes one mean snow plough although you need +400bhp to push the mound of snow in front of you! The Defender's coming out of the barn later - it's even got heated seats and front screen for heaven's sake. Ah the luxury.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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C4 with PSM lick What's all this sliding you are talking about? PSM may not be able to defy the laws of physics but it certainly sticks two fingers up at them

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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C4? laugh

205 GTi - drop pressure in front tyres and off you go.

FFS it's only a few inches of snow!

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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What do I know, I walked this morning.... I did put my big boots on, just in case

It's days like this make me wish I hadn't killed my E30

Pugsey

5,821 posts

244 months

Wednesday 24th January 2007
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BliarOut said:
What do I know, I walked this morning.... I did put my big boots on, just in case

It's days like this make me wish I hadn't killed my E30
I find Hunter boots are good in the wet although a few people have recommended Barbours for mud and snow. Mine are a bit worn now so thinking of a change. May save a bit of money and go for 'n' rating this time or would that be false economy. Don't want to worry that the guy next to me has got an advantage when walking the Lab!