Suspension on 997 Turbo anyone changed it Yet?
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I get the great pleasure of looking into my new bosses cars, which is great but after somehow getting him to be one of the first people in the country to get the new 911 997 Turbo he now has problems driving it. He has a condition which basically means that sometimes he feels sea sick, its quite a bit worse than this but thats the long and the short of it. So stuck with this brand new 997 Turbo that he cant drive becuase it makes him feel sick, hes back into the 996 Turbo for the timebeing whilst I try and find some solution to the problem. Now we believe it to be down to the PASM, which works superbly, however causes this problem. Has anyone done any tuning on this car or other variants of the 997 with regards to the suspension that has made the ride harder, has anyone compared the GT3 to the Turbo is that much harder? Any suggestions would be great guys becuase the way it looks now we will be left no alternative but to sell the 997 which is such a shame as its amazing.
Maybe it's his driving style as much as anything else?
I can imagine the 997TT is capable of generating enough G's in directions your brain is not expecting to make any passenger feel sick, and if he's driving in a manner which would promote this, maybe he's doing a number on himself!
Appreciate your boss doesn't want driving advice from you, but have you been out in it with him when he starts feeling sick, and were you wondering what on earth he was doing sawing at the wheel and jumping on and off the pedals just moments before?
I can imagine the 997TT is capable of generating enough G's in directions your brain is not expecting to make any passenger feel sick, and if he's driving in a manner which would promote this, maybe he's doing a number on himself!
Appreciate your boss doesn't want driving advice from you, but have you been out in it with him when he starts feeling sick, and were you wondering what on earth he was doing sawing at the wheel and jumping on and off the pedals just moments before?
I agree it sounds like vertigo. Some cars will make this worse. I used to get it and my old MkII XR2 (25 years ago) was awful for making me feel sick. Audi TT was the same, the roof line was too low for me.
Which brings me to a possible solution, get your boss to change his driving position. Make sure he is upright and sitting closer to the steering wheel. Having a good view, with a straight neck will allow him to be less affected by any suspension movement. It will also let him cope with lateral G better.
This may all be a waste of time, as he may have a good driving posture, but its worth checking and may be worth him talking to one of the driving schools about his posture.
It worked for me.
Which brings me to a possible solution, get your boss to change his driving position. Make sure he is upright and sitting closer to the steering wheel. Having a good view, with a straight neck will allow him to be less affected by any suspension movement. It will also let him cope with lateral G better.
This may all be a waste of time, as he may have a good driving posture, but its worth checking and may be worth him talking to one of the driving schools about his posture.
It worked for me.
Raven Flyer said:
I agree it sounds like vertigo. Some cars will make this worse. I used to get it and my old MkII XR2 (25 years ago) was awful for making me feel sick. Audi TT was the same, the roof line was too low for me.
Which brings me to a possible solution, get your boss to change his driving position. Make sure he is upright and sitting closer to the steering wheel. Having a good view, with a straight neck will allow him to be less affected by any suspension movement. It will also let him cope with lateral G better.
This may all be a waste of time, as he may have a good driving posture, but its worth checking and may be worth him talking to one of the driving schools about his posture.
It worked for me.
I can concur - suffer the same thing myself and it's horrid. The angle of your head/neck is critical and can make the difference between feeling ill literally within minutes or being completely fine. Race cars are worse because there is a tendency to lie back and tilt you head and neck forward. Which brings me to a possible solution, get your boss to change his driving position. Make sure he is upright and sitting closer to the steering wheel. Having a good view, with a straight neck will allow him to be less affected by any suspension movement. It will also let him cope with lateral G better.
This may all be a waste of time, as he may have a good driving posture, but its worth checking and may be worth him talking to one of the driving schools about his posture.
It worked for me.
Edited by Pugsey on Monday 27th November 21:55
Cheers for the responses, its definately not vertigo, its this;
Mal de Debarquement Syndrome (or MdDS) is an imbalance or rocking/swaying sensation often both "felt" and "seen" by the sufferer that occurs after exposure to motion (most commonly after a sea cruise or a flight). Although other forms of travel have been known to trigger it.
After alighting or "debarking" (debarquement) the traveller continues to feel "all at sea", unable to get their land legs back. Although most travellers can identify with this feeling and do actually experience it temporarily after disembarking, unfortunately in the case of MdDS sufferers it can persist for many weeks, months, even years afterwards.
I will mention the driving position and the other comments to him but im not how much of it he will take on. I am speaking to the UK Customer services manager about perhaps changing some of the suspension to the same as the GT3 but cant see this helping that much. The only other option will have to be an aftermarket tuning company to make the suspension much harder should this not fix the issue.
Mal de Debarquement Syndrome (or MdDS) is an imbalance or rocking/swaying sensation often both "felt" and "seen" by the sufferer that occurs after exposure to motion (most commonly after a sea cruise or a flight). Although other forms of travel have been known to trigger it.
After alighting or "debarking" (debarquement) the traveller continues to feel "all at sea", unable to get their land legs back. Although most travellers can identify with this feeling and do actually experience it temporarily after disembarking, unfortunately in the case of MdDS sufferers it can persist for many weeks, months, even years afterwards.
I will mention the driving position and the other comments to him but im not how much of it he will take on. I am speaking to the UK Customer services manager about perhaps changing some of the suspension to the same as the GT3 but cant see this helping that much. The only other option will have to be an aftermarket tuning company to make the suspension much harder should this not fix the issue.
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