911 3.2 vs 964 vs 993
Discussion
Hi everyone,
usual story. I am loking to buy my first porsche ! I am a bit unsure as to what to go for as they all have different qualities. I do not mind spending 25k or so on the right car. I just saw a beautiful condition 3.2 for sale but as this will be my everyday car it was not fair on the car for me to buy it - it was quite literally a new car! The thing that worries me a bit is that the chap volunteered that his car was rubbish in the wet! All the 964s i have seen seem to be knackered or overpriced but one can buy a 4 wheel drive! I have heard bad things about the engine design of the 964 so that is also putting me off!
Now onto the 993. I have rarely heard a bad word about them but they are right at top end of my budget. I have looked at a few and althugh everyone says dont buy on mileage etc I am a bit loathe to spend 25K or so on a car with 70 000 plus on the clock !
Views apreciated!
usual story. I am loking to buy my first porsche ! I am a bit unsure as to what to go for as they all have different qualities. I do not mind spending 25k or so on the right car. I just saw a beautiful condition 3.2 for sale but as this will be my everyday car it was not fair on the car for me to buy it - it was quite literally a new car! The thing that worries me a bit is that the chap volunteered that his car was rubbish in the wet! All the 964s i have seen seem to be knackered or overpriced but one can buy a 4 wheel drive! I have heard bad things about the engine design of the 964 so that is also putting me off!
Now onto the 993. I have rarely heard a bad word about them but they are right at top end of my budget. I have looked at a few and althugh everyone says dont buy on mileage etc I am a bit loathe to spend 25K or so on a car with 70 000 plus on the clock !
Views apreciated!
Hi.
I had a MINT 3.2 1989 model until this time last year.
It would have done any amount of driving - GT magazine reviewed it and called it the best 3.2 in the country.
However, I was doing little mileage, so not a problem.
Sadly I sold it when I fancied buying an Audi S4 Avant - it seemed like a good idea at the time, and I must say it is a faster car than the Porsche, but it's not a Porsche even if you CAN get a dog in the boot and a bike on the roof!
I've now bought a 1995 993 C2, 3.6 non-varioram, and the similarities to the 3.2 are there, just more civilised! ABS, ABD, Climate (although my 3.2 had this) and more make it the car you should buy too!
Mine has 119000 miles, and has had a new clutch, brakes, tyres, and etc in the last 6 months.
I think a better combination of air cooled 911 and civilised machinery has yet to be invented than would compete with a 993.
Buy a 993 - a milagey car needn't be a knightmare if you go into it thinking "I need to spend a little to make this a daily driver"
Yours etc.,
Andrew Dryburgh.
I had a MINT 3.2 1989 model until this time last year.
It would have done any amount of driving - GT magazine reviewed it and called it the best 3.2 in the country.
However, I was doing little mileage, so not a problem.
Sadly I sold it when I fancied buying an Audi S4 Avant - it seemed like a good idea at the time, and I must say it is a faster car than the Porsche, but it's not a Porsche even if you CAN get a dog in the boot and a bike on the roof!
I've now bought a 1995 993 C2, 3.6 non-varioram, and the similarities to the 3.2 are there, just more civilised! ABS, ABD, Climate (although my 3.2 had this) and more make it the car you should buy too!
Mine has 119000 miles, and has had a new clutch, brakes, tyres, and etc in the last 6 months.
I think a better combination of air cooled 911 and civilised machinery has yet to be invented than would compete with a 993.
Buy a 993 - a milagey car needn't be a knightmare if you go into it thinking "I need to spend a little to make this a daily driver"
Yours etc.,
Andrew Dryburgh.
All cars will need maintenance, especially when the youngest of your lot is around 10 years old.
My 993 cost me £26k a few years ago, it had 70k on the clock and was nicely looked after. I've since supercharged it (unnecessary expense) and kept it in fine condition (necessary expenses). You'll find some odd variation in 993 prices... there were a few revisions. You can definitely get a good, sound early 993 2wd carrera for less than £25k - if anything the 20k miles garage queens may be a riskier bet as a daily driver than a 993 that's been driven regularly through its life.
If anything the regular, necessary expenses on 993s will be lower than 964s - esp. standard services and anything to do with the clutch. A specialist indy on the 3.2 may be cheaper, but it's a much older car with more to keep in top condition. Equally a dog of an unmaintained 993 will cost a lot to get back to 'good' nick, so buy on condition (a la Henry).
Obviously I'm biased as I love 993s but don't throw it out on a financial basis, if you're stating that you want a 40k mile car then you really don't want a 20 year old car that's only done 2k miles a year!!!! Properly documented and maintained higher miles are the way to go, surely
My 993 cost me £26k a few years ago, it had 70k on the clock and was nicely looked after. I've since supercharged it (unnecessary expense) and kept it in fine condition (necessary expenses). You'll find some odd variation in 993 prices... there were a few revisions. You can definitely get a good, sound early 993 2wd carrera for less than £25k - if anything the 20k miles garage queens may be a riskier bet as a daily driver than a 993 that's been driven regularly through its life.
If anything the regular, necessary expenses on 993s will be lower than 964s - esp. standard services and anything to do with the clutch. A specialist indy on the 3.2 may be cheaper, but it's a much older car with more to keep in top condition. Equally a dog of an unmaintained 993 will cost a lot to get back to 'good' nick, so buy on condition (a la Henry).
Obviously I'm biased as I love 993s but don't throw it out on a financial basis, if you're stating that you want a 40k mile car then you really don't want a 20 year old car that's only done 2k miles a year!!!! Properly documented and maintained higher miles are the way to go, surely
CraigyB said:
try them all and buy the one you like the best
I agree completely. If the car is crap in the wet it is because the tyres and geometry are not set up correctly. You have to remember that these cars unlike most others give you the ability not just to adjust the toe on the front but to adjust both front and rear toe and also the camber and castor. I'll give you two examples. My first Porsche a mint 3.2 Carrera was speed limited to 80-85 mph in the wet until the geometry was altered then you could drive it as fast as you wanted. I had a silver rose 944 turbo that at 100mph in the wet when you squeezed the throttle would spin the rear tyres. They were a decent make (can't remember which) but they were past their sell by date. My 3.6 turbo had new front suspension top mounts fitted and because the idiots did not reset the front camber correctly it won't turn into corners properly. (soon to be addressed.)
Drive all three and decide for yourself which you prefer. Good Luck
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