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Hoping to find a few knowledgeable people here on the likely costs of trying to repair this:
[url]www.douglasvalley.co.uk/salvage/salvage_details.asp?id=1817[/url]
Any ideas? Worthwhile?
Thanks
[url]www.douglasvalley.co.uk/salvage/salvage_details.asp?id=1817[/url]
Any ideas? Worthwhile?
Thanks
What would it be worth "pre accident"? It's not in the best condition, so i guess it's done a good few miles and not been looked after brilliantly well but nonetheless maybe £18-20k with the help of a good valet?
So, assuming it's been recorded on HPI (i'd guess a Cat C), what would it be worth to someone else once repaired to the very highest standard? Maybe £13-15k?
And i'd assume you'd be looking at a minimum of £5k to fix it - wings, bonnet, spare wheel well, cutting welding, prepping, full respray, etc.
So i guess it depends on how cheap you can get it, and whether it's worth the hassle of buying and fixing, and then at some point trying to sell...
So, assuming it's been recorded on HPI (i'd guess a Cat C), what would it be worth to someone else once repaired to the very highest standard? Maybe £13-15k?
And i'd assume you'd be looking at a minimum of £5k to fix it - wings, bonnet, spare wheel well, cutting welding, prepping, full respray, etc.
So i guess it depends on how cheap you can get it, and whether it's worth the hassle of buying and fixing, and then at some point trying to sell...
Looks more to me like a potential donor rather than a car worth repairing. It looks like the structural deformation extends into the sill(s), so a whole new front end needed, chassis jig to straighten it up, etc.
Rather you than me gunga-din - I suspect that you'd have to spend more than the value of the car to repair it properly.
Rather you than me gunga-din - I suspect that you'd have to spend more than the value of the car to repair it properly.
I think you'd be better off buying this to drop the engine into one that was on its last legs (or gone) and sell the remaining bits on ebay/whatever for spares...
Repairing the car wouldnt be worth it, as there will be chassis damage, so it'll never be as good as it was, and it'll be harder to sell on.
Repairing the car wouldnt be worth it, as there will be chassis damage, so it'll never be as good as it was, and it'll be harder to sell on.
Or buy a car that`s been photographed from the point of impact rather than it`s best side. Unless you own a bodyshop you`ll not want to be going down that route. The front chassis legs will have been moved, certainly the off side one, as I suspect will the panel behind the petrol tank. You may even find your repair work extends to the tub by the pedals.
Impossible to estimate based on photos but assuming the job is done properly and you`re paying market value for labour and materials my guess would be in the £10k to £15k bracket. If everthing going back on was new then you might even exceed that figure.
Given the age of the car you`ll also need to allow for age related extra work. Mechanically you won`t have driven the car prior to repair so even when the bodywork is completed you`ve only just begun and you get to shake the dice all over again !
Good luck - Henry
Impossible to estimate based on photos but assuming the job is done properly and you`re paying market value for labour and materials my guess would be in the £10k to £15k bracket. If everthing going back on was new then you might even exceed that figure.
Given the age of the car you`ll also need to allow for age related extra work. Mechanically you won`t have driven the car prior to repair so even when the bodywork is completed you`ve only just begun and you get to shake the dice all over again !
Good luck - Henry
Just proves my thoughts that people love a piece of sh1t with the expectation of if being a bargain; i guess that's why sheeple pay as much for a renovation project house as a perfect one
I also anticipate that the same prospective buyers paying a few K more for a complete example would be wanting a full test drive, warranty and service.
I also anticipate that the same prospective buyers paying a few K more for a complete example would be wanting a full test drive, warranty and service.
It's a nice project if you have the time ability and money.
It doesn't look much like a business proposition though.
The price he's asking looks to me like the value of the components added up.....
£1k for wheels
£4k for the engine and gearbox
£1k for the exhaust (if it's got a new one)
£1.5k for the windows, rear spoiler, light cluster, oil tank, rear wings yada yada yada...
I'm guessing that the price is fair, but the pressure to drive the price down on good examples is really high. Cars like this, dying, is what keeps the value of the rest high.
It doesn't look much like a business proposition though.
The price he's asking looks to me like the value of the components added up.....
£1k for wheels
£4k for the engine and gearbox
£1k for the exhaust (if it's got a new one)
£1.5k for the windows, rear spoiler, light cluster, oil tank, rear wings yada yada yada...
I'm guessing that the price is fair, but the pressure to drive the price down on good examples is really high. Cars like this, dying, is what keeps the value of the rest high.
Ok thanks, did see some deformation at the sill but hoped it was my eyes deceiving me
Not exactly sure if your trying to have a dig here but unfortunately for some, not everyone can afford the perfect car that they want and so they have to look for alternative options to achieve this.
aceparts_com said:
Just proves my thoughts that people love a piece of sh1t with the expectation of if being a bargain; i guess that's why sheeple pay as much for a renovation project house as a perfect one
I also anticipate that the same prospective buyers paying a few K more for a complete example would be wanting a full test drive, warranty and service.
I also anticipate that the same prospective buyers paying a few K more for a complete example would be wanting a full test drive, warranty and service.
Not exactly sure if your trying to have a dig here but unfortunately for some, not everyone can afford the perfect car that they want and so they have to look for alternative options to achieve this.
No digging. The point is that this ultimately works out more expensive than buying a perfect one in the first place.
When I was younger I used to go to mini shows and was always amazed how the public ignored nice new shiny items laid out upon a table in order to go elbow deep in dirt and grease in order to pull out a knackered water pump from the bottom of a cardboard box.
When I was younger I used to go to mini shows and was always amazed how the public ignored nice new shiny items laid out upon a table in order to go elbow deep in dirt and grease in order to pull out a knackered water pump from the bottom of a cardboard box.
aceparts_com said:
No digging. The point is that this ultimately works out more expensive than buying a perfect one in the first place.
When I was younger I used to go to mini shows and was always amazed how the public ignored nice new shiny items laid out upon a table in order to go elbow deep in dirt and grease in order to pull out a knackered water pump from the bottom of a cardboard box.
When I was younger I used to go to mini shows and was always amazed how the public ignored nice new shiny items laid out upon a table in order to go elbow deep in dirt and grease in order to pull out a knackered water pump from the bottom of a cardboard box.
Must be because those people grew up following David Dickinson! Cheap as chips!
I'm just considering options now, as apart from this particular car, salvage cars (those not recorded) seem pretty worthwhile if you know where to get cheap parts and mate's who own bodyshops etc? I know it'd make my money go further!
Your money goes further but you're still buying a previously pranged car which will be X times harder to sell.
I've purchased a couple of pranged cars before, got my brother (who owned a bodyshop) to repair/paint and they've always ended up costing the same as a proper one at the end of the day, especially when you consider all the unforseen issues that come with a repair (four drive shafts a year on a 106 springs to mind).
Go and buy a cheapy from sir henry, it'll cost you a lot less in the medium/long run
I've purchased a couple of pranged cars before, got my brother (who owned a bodyshop) to repair/paint and they've always ended up costing the same as a proper one at the end of the day, especially when you consider all the unforseen issues that come with a repair (four drive shafts a year on a 106 springs to mind).
Go and buy a cheapy from sir henry, it'll cost you a lot less in the medium/long run
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